{"id":41648,"date":"2017-06-25T17:00:43","date_gmt":"2017-06-25T21:00:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/?p=41648"},"modified":"2017-06-24T12:01:24","modified_gmt":"2017-06-24T16:01:24","slug":"questioning-pearls-modesty-everyones-issue","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/06\/questioning-pearls-modesty-everyones-issue\/","title":{"rendered":"Questioning the Pearls &#8211; Modesty is Everyone&#8217;s Issue"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2017\/06\/QuestioningthePearls.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-41649\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-41649\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2017\/06\/QuestioningthePearls-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"QuestioningthePearls\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\"><\/a>This may well be another of those faux Pearl letters just written to make a point. The letter writer says that if a man has lust problems, that they are his problems. A \u2018ministry supporter\u2019 claims that it\u2019s everyone elses responsibility to make sure men aren\u2019t tempted with the penis-demon.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>For well over a year we\u2019ve been running a second Answering \u2018Preparing To Be A Help Meet\u2019 on Sundays, filled with questions by young ladies trying to get ready for marriage. Since we\u2019ve run through many of the questions on their site it\u2019s time to shift Sundays to something else, like perhaps examining the cornucopia of probably fake emails and questions that Michael and Debi Pearl of No Greater Joy post on their website and the possibly poisonous answers they give.<\/p>\n<p>Question and answer <a href=\"http:\/\/nogreaterjoy.org\/articles\/sobering-issues-modesty\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">here.<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Dear Debi,<\/p>\n<p>I have truly enjoyed your book <em>Created to Be His Help Meet<\/em>. It has been a blessing to me and many of my friends. I have given it to many ladies, and some have questions about the way you put things. Some ladies take exception to the story of the lady who wears the tight skirt and the man\u2019s reaction. They say, \u201cShe makes it sound like Lydia (Bathsheba) is responsible for his actions. Why didn\u2019t the young man go for counselling? I don\u2019t believe a normal young man has a constant, day to day sexual struggle against visual temptation. They don\u2019t have to regardless of how a girl is dressed. This sounds too much like, \u201cIf you dress like that, you are just asking to be raped.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>and the answer supposedly written not by Michael or Debi Pearl but by \u2018a friend of the ministry\u2019 that sounds suspiciously like Debi:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I tell my boys about the dangers of a woman who dresses like \u201cLydia.\u201d My son, 6 years old, sees women in public and observes how they dress. \u201cDaddy, is that a \u2018strange lady\u2019?\u201d He\u2019s referring to the \u201cstrange woman\u201d of Proverbs 7. I answer, \u201cI don\u2019t know if she is, but she certainly dresses like one.\u201d And we have seen them at \u201cchurch.\u201d Do you want my son to look at you and think of you as a \u201cstrange lady\u201d? How about your daughter, would my sons think she is strange? My sons won\u2019t marry a woman who doesn\u2019t respect a man\u2019s propensity to visual temptation. They\u2019ll marry a woman who reveals herself to them and them only.<\/p>\n<p>My daughters won\u2019t dress like a strange woman either. Mine, at only 9 years old, knows that she should keep her body from a man\u2019s eyes, reserving it for her future husband. In the grocery store one day, when my daughter was wearing a skirt that flowed around her ankles, she heard another little girl (dressed in shorts) point to my daughter and comment to her own mother, \u201cLook, Mom, she\u2019s beautiful!\u201d Why not dress beautifully rather than like a slut? You should get out of your ignorance before your dinner guest looks at you or your daughter then visits the bathroom. Well, that\u2019s probably already happened.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So charming that a so-called Christian is calling women who do not dress to their standard a \u2018slut\u2019. I would love to see that word made as socially unacceptable as the \u2018n\u2019 word.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><em>Stay in touch! 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