{"id":56233,"date":"2020-07-21T12:57:22","date_gmt":"2020-07-21T16:57:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/?p=56233"},"modified":"2022-03-01T17:14:36","modified_gmt":"2022-03-01T21:14:36","slug":"the-church-mental-health-and-kanye-west","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2020\/07\/the-church-mental-health-and-kanye-west\/","title":{"rendered":"The Church, Mental Health and Kanye West"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2020\/07\/Screenshot_2020-07-21-5-Questions-about-Mental-Illness.png\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-56240\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2020\/07\/Screenshot_2020-07-21-5-Questions-about-Mental-Illness.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"760\" height=\"170\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Earlier in the week David Murray of Crossway wrote an article on the issues of depression. It was a curious blend of some factual things with the whole Evangelical nonsense of mental issues always being sin somewhere along the line. The article was titled <a href=\"https:\/\/www.crossway.org\/articles\/5-questions-about-mental-illness\/?fbclid=IwAR21W8t9QHXTHBjm-uMd6NAEBP-lJ-dw6pvRfJA4OGYG45Tef6ZmlMhIdGw\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201c5 Questions About Mental Illness\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The author blames all mental illness on the fall of Adam to start with. But Adam gets a lot of blame for so many things in Evangelism. Eve gets more.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>\u201cAll depression, anxiety, bi-polar, schizophrenia, PTSD, personality disorders, etc. can be traced to that terrible turning point in world history. Mental illness is not a new invention, but a sin invention. \u201c<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>He goes on to explain that some mental illness comes out of brain chemistry being off, or a genetic predisposition, which is radical thinking in the church. The church as a whole will blame it on personal sin. We went through this for many years during my husband\u2019s depression that wasn\u2019t depression at all in the classical sense, but malignant tumors on his parathyroid glands.<\/p>\n<p>The author goes on to state one of the biggest problems with mental illness is that is causes you to turn away from your spiritual life, then goes on to claim the opposite, that not having a spiritual life can cause mental illness. Which is it?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>\u201cOur spiritual life affects our thoughts, feelings, bodies, and relationships, and, if unhealthy, it can be the cause of mental illness.\u201d<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And then we end up here, a familiar, wrong and predictable place.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>\u201cWe may have wrong lives. Although we should normally not run to this first as our default, we must acknowledge that our sinful attitudes, desires, and actions can cause, or at least contribute to, mental illness. The most common spiritual causes of mental illness are addictions, immorality, greed, overwork, bitterness, anger, hatred, pornography, idolatry, and unbelief. This is partly because some of these cause physical damage. But there\u2019s also a spiritual element to all these sins. Shame and guilt wear and tear our bodies, God can chastise us, sinful thoughts and desires that we choose can also damage us.\u201d<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I will give the author credit, his answer on how to solve mental illness is more correct than most bloviating Evangelicals. He suggests that a team approach of medication, therapy, exercise, diet, friendships before adding in the typical Evangelical you just need Jesus.<\/p>\n<p>Knowing that this is what the Evangelical world believes, that it\u2019s mostly sin, makes me fear for Kanye West. For those of us that do not follow or try to exploit celebrity gossip it\u2019s been pretty obvious over the course of the last week tha<a href=\"https:\/\/www.mercurynews.com\/2020\/07\/20\/kanye-west-kim-kardashian-tried-to-commit-me-after-abortion-rant-about-7-year-old-daughter\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">t Kanye seems to be experiencing pretty significant mental health issues.<\/a>\u00a0 This is, of course, as he\u2019s running for president against Donald Trump, set to release a new album titled \u201cDonda\u201d, and apparently holed up in the recording studio tweeting all sorts of disturbing things.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2020\/07\/Screenshot_2020-07-21-Kanye-West-Claims-Wife-Kim-Kardashian-Was-Trying-to-Fly-to-Wyoming-with-a-Doctor-to-Lock-Me-Up.png\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-56242\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2020\/07\/Screenshot_2020-07-21-Kanye-West-Claims-Wife-Kim-Kardashian-Was-Trying-to-Fly-to-Wyoming-with-a-Doctor-to-Lock-Me-Up.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"252\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I cannot believe I am about to say this, but I feel bad for his wife Kim Kardashian, Having spent significant time around manic people suffering from bipolar disorders her role is a hard one. She\u2019s not responsible for his behavior, or even if he stays on his medications, which many bipolars struggle to do. She can only talk to him, give her imput and sit back, and watch him disintegrate until she can do a medical intervention to hospitalize him.<\/p>\n<p>The reason I mention Kanye is two-fold. First, he\u2019s set himself up as an<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2019\/10\/the-passion-of-kanye-west\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"> Evangelical powerhouse, a player<\/a> in a religion that holds those views I posted above. They eat their mentally ill own, with no compassion, but a heaping helping of blaming and shaming, which is so not what he needs at this point. I am hearing silence and crickets chirping from all of his high level Evangelical buddies right now.<\/p>\n<p>The second point is a stickier one. The need for privacy, compassion, helpful conversations, and destigmatizing mental health issues. We desperately need to change as a society is how we speak of the mentally unhealthy. Sometimes the language and talk sounds just this side of a lynch mob.<\/p>\n<p>How do we do that? I think the first step is shunning those who are trying to sensationalize the mental struggles of others. Yesterday I ran across a YouTube blogger who made no less than two long videos in a very short span that illustrate the problems of mental illness in people. She spent the first one continually yapping out blaming and shaming language insisting that Kanye\u2019s wife Kim Kardashian \u2018do\u2019 something.<\/p>\n<p>She does not know either Kim or Kanye. She\u2019s not a mental health professional. She\u2019s just another gossip hag picking over the bones of some juicy scandal without considering how her coverage might affect the treatment of the victim. Plus this isn\u2019t even the first time she\u2019s put people in risky situations by what she\u2019s said in her videos. I am hearing that this particular blogger also put her own neighbors at risk by lying about their harassment to her fans, who tend to take everything she says as the gospel and have physically threatened others in her life.<\/p>\n<p>When people indulge in this type of behavior they are just adding to the overwhelming problems the mentally ill already struggle with, and feed the illusion that the mentally ill aren\u2019t really people. Well, not normal people. They perpetuate the stereotypes, making it harder for those who need the help to reach out to those who could help them. We need to speak kindly, helpfully, and with compassion.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s hoping that Kanye gets the help he needs, and Kim gets the support she\u2019ll need to keep navigating this complex issue.<\/p>\n<p><em>Stay in touch! 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