{"id":489,"date":"2009-11-19T08:30:00","date_gmt":"2009-11-19T08:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/orthodixie\/2009\/11\/aa-sinner-yes-heretic-no.html"},"modified":"2009-11-19T08:30:00","modified_gmt":"2009-11-19T08:30:00","slug":"aa-sinner-yes-heretic-no","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/orthodixie\/2009\/11\/aa-sinner-yes-heretic-no.html","title":{"rendered":"AA: Sinner? Yes. Heretic? No."},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/399\/blogger\/_iTncioBQZNk\/SwVYmW85SPI\/AAAAAAAADOA\/6nHfXl1ZKsY\/s1600\/image_phpmtx1Hy.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:left;margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer;cursor:hand;width: 295px;height: 400px\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/399\/blogger\/_iTncioBQZNk\/SwVYmW85SPI\/AAAAAAAADOA\/6nHfXl1ZKsY\/s400\/image_phpmtx1Hy.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\"><\/a><span style=\"font-size:180%\"><span>I<\/span><\/span>t was said concerning Abba Agathon that some monks came to find him having heard tell of his great discernment.<\/p>\n<p>Wanting to see if he would lose his temper they said to him, \u201cAren\u2019t you that Agathon who is said to be a fornicator and a proud man?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYes, it is very true,\u201d he answered.<\/p>\n<p>They resumed, \u201cAren\u2019t you that Agathon who is always talking nonsense?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI am.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Again they said, \u201cAren\u2019t you Agathon the heretic?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But at that he replied, \u201cI am not a heretic.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>So they asked him, \u201cTell us why you accepted everything we cast at you, but repudiated this last insult?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He replied, \u201cThe first accusations I take to myself, for that is good for my soul.  But heresy is separation from God.  Now I have no wish to be separated from God.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>At this saying they were astonished at his discernment and returned edified.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:78%\">The Sayings of the Desert Fathers: The Alphabetic Collection, \u201cAgathon,\u201d # 5, Benedicta Ward (ed. tr.), pp. 20, 21. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:85%\"><span style=\"font-style: italic\">Stolen from <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/groups.yahoo.com\/group\/orthodoxdynamis\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">DYNAMIS<\/a><span style=\"font-style: italic\">.<\/span><\/span><br><span style=\"font-size:78%\"><span style=\"font-style: italic\">Image <\/span><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.pylgeralmanak.nl\/?pagina_id=91\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-size:78%\"><span style=\"font-style: italic\">Source<\/span><\/span><br><\/a><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It was said concerning Abba Agathon that some monks came to find him having heard tell of his great discernment. Wanting to see if he would lose his temper they said to him, \u201cAren\u2019t you that Agathon who is said to be a fornicator and a proud man?\u201d \u201cYes, it is very true,\u201d he answered. [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1691,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-489","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>AA: Sinner? Yes. Heretic? 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