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Find other posts related to this topic on the link round-up post<\/a>!<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Daughters of Eve Contributor<\/a>, Nouvelle Noir Goddess, offers her view on the current debate:<\/em><\/p>\n

I\u2019ve read numerous thought provoking and inspiring personal testimony by individuals thought on referencing themselves Pagan, Polytheist, or the likes. Each contributor to the debate gave me insight on how at times one feels alienated or together with Pagan community as a collective whole.<\/p>\n

In my experience with the African Traditionalist \u201ccommunity\u201d there are even debates on what individuals prefer to call themselves: Yoruba based religions, African Traditional Religion, Pagan, our exact religion name (Ifa, Vodou, Hoodoo, Batuque, ect). We also don\u2019t come into an agreement with names of practitioners (Bruja\/Brujos or Curanderas for Spanish speaking practitioners, mainly Mexico, for an example). Even in my native familial country of Haiti there is many divination of what Vodou is. Some believe that monotheism best describes the religion. Since there is a Supreme Deity, who is remote or \u201cactive\u201d pending on the practitioner. Monotheism doesn\u2019t have negative connotations for many Haitians. Similar to Catholicism is seen as Monotheist with saints as intermediaries. So, it is with the concept of monotheism in Vodou (and its many forms: Vodun, Vodu, Voodoo,ect) or Fon Religion (Vodou is Fon based not Yoruba based). Nevertheless, there are individual practitioners who find comfort with using the terminology of polytheism\/polytheist for they don\u2019t feel the connection with the Supreme deity. At times, the Supreme deity can be \u201cout of sight out of mind.\u201d<\/p>\n

There is another growing use of the terminology of \u201cPagan\u201d and \u201cWiccan\u201d with many immigrants from Latin American society who still holds onto their indigenous practices. For many immigrants identifying themselves as \u201cWiccan\u201d is away to inform \u201cthe others\u201d who are not of their practice that their religion is \u201cpeaceful\u201d and \u201cnature based.\u201d I\u2019ve actually heard Santeria practitioners tell others that they are Wiccan. Their intention is not degrade the actual Wiccans but to inform U.S. unknowledgeable \u201cspectators\u201d that they are not sinister, since Wicca is a religion that most \u201cmainstream\u201d Abraham followers at least heard of or know of. Believe it or not, it does hold less negative stigma to refer oneself as Wiccan than hougan, mambo, Vodou\/Santeria practitioners, and the likes. I\u2019m sure Wiccans born in the states and raised in the states may not believe it. Yet, it is these individuals truth. So, many times when I tell individuals that I am Pagan, who are not Pagan, jump into the next question of, \u201cAre you Wiccan?\u201d Wiccan is not seen as a \u201cthreat\u201d than being from a religion that is not indigenous or known in the U.S. Yes, there is more awareness of Wicca than any other \u201cPagan\u201d denominations\/faith. This is were I can appreciate non-Wiccans sentiments in feeling alienated by the media.<\/p>\n

On the other hand, one thing is for sure within the African Religion based communities: no matter what we call ourselves we are still one. If a Vodou practitioner, not all but for the most part the majority, hear anything negative with their cousin religion of Santeria they will unite as one. For all in all we do share a common ground: being a minority religion, similar but different concepts, similar but different rituals, similar but different history, and an overall sense of appreciation, respect, and understanding.<\/p>\n

This I\u2019ve seen within the Christian community, as well. Individual Christian denomination and followers disputing their \u201cChristendom\u201d but when \u201coutsiders\u201d say something\u2026they unite. When it comes to issues they share in common, they unite. Currently there is a debate of Mormons<\/a> not being a Christian and\/or Mormons are Christians. Nevertheless when Mormons were the biggest factor in the opposition for California prop 8 nobody questioned Mormons Christianity. For that brief moment \u201cthey\u201d were all Christians. One analogy can I use is family bickering back and forth: cousins, aunts, uncles, siblings, and parents. Yet, if an outsider states anything \u201cfoul\u201d about one of the family members\u2014they unite against that outsider. Even if the outsider may state verbatim what an individual family stated\u2026 \u201cnot ok. They are family! So \u201cI can say whatever I like. YOU can\u2019t\u201d mentality erupts.<\/p>\n

This is how I personally feel about the debate currently going on. Yes, it is insightful and a much needed discussion on how individuals feel with the being labeled \u201cPagan\u201d There is a lesson we can learn from it. Yet, when push comes to shove\u2014we are just any other family. We will unite. We will set our indifferences aside to promote awareness, tolerance, education, and eradicate hatred from those who are \u201coutside\u201d of us. I believe we should at least acknowledge that and embrace it.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"