{"id":2295,"date":"2013-09-04T07:56:43","date_gmt":"2013-09-04T13:56:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/paperbacktheology\/?p=2295"},"modified":"2013-09-04T07:56:43","modified_gmt":"2013-09-04T13:56:43","slug":"bombing-syria-there-is-no-right-way-to-do-this-theres-no-good-side-to-be-on","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/paperbacktheology\/2013\/09\/bombing-syria-there-is-no-right-way-to-do-this-theres-no-good-side-to-be-on.html","title":{"rendered":"Bombing Syria: There is No Right Way to Do This; There&#8217;s No &#8220;Good&#8221; Side to be On"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>There\u2019s an interesting<a href=\"http:\/\/www.slate.com\/articles\/news_and_politics\/politics\/2013\/09\/obama_congress_and_syria_arguments_for_and_against_the_bombing_resolution.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"> article up at <em>Slate<\/em> <\/a>today in which they weight the pros and cons of an attack on Syria. I think it\u2019s worth reading. It\u2019s an interesting list of rationale from people both sides of the fence. I\u2019ve pulled just a few out, but it\u2019s worth reading the whole list. What\u2019s so sad is that the silliest reason of all, \u201cIt\u2019s the American thing to do,\u201d offered by Boehner, is probably the reason it will happen.<\/p>\n<p>I, for one, do not believe we should even be considering this. The main reason I oppose air strikes at this time is that what Assad has done (if he in fact, even has control of his own generals &amp; their insane decision to use chemical weapons), is unthinkable, unspeakable, and presents an urgent issue that needs international pressure. This issue is far to serious in terms of the world community, for the U.S. to deal with unilaterally. This requires international cooperation and pressure. If we don\u2019t have that, then take the case to the world, not to the House and Senate. Build an international coalition \u2013 that really shouldn\u2019t be too difficult \u2013 and use diplomatic pressure.<\/p>\n<p>I have other reasons as well: There is not a \u201cgood\u201d side to be on in this conflict. Assad seem almost sociopathic (read the article today in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2013\/09\/04\/world\/middleeast\/assad-wages-war-shielded-with-a-smile.html?hp&amp;_r=0\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>NYTimes<\/em><\/a>, he and his wife are still playing Stepford family). But the rebels are no better. When the dust settles in this conflict, there will be no one left standing with whom the U.S. can be friendly. There is no international support for an attack, so it will be unilateral and widely condemned. The country doesn\u2019t support it. It\u2019s costly. There is no end-game. There is no such thing as a \u201csurgical\u201d air strike. Attacks like this always kill a lot of innocent non-combatants (which is, by the way, the rationale for attacking in the first place). Even our closest ally, Great Britain, is against the attack. And, it will most certainly continue to erode the U.S. reputation in the region and be yet another great recruiting tool for Al Quaeda. \u00a0Finally, it will draw attention away from the serious domestic issues that require our full attention.<\/p>\n<p>The president is clearly convinced this is the right thing to do, but I think he\u2019s wrong. He\u2019s convincing more and more people, the latest being leaders in the House. We\u2019ve been down this road before, shady-intel on weapons of mass destruction as a rationale for waging war. It was a huge mistake that time and it will be this time, too. Here\u2019s the Slate excerpt.<\/p>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Against<\/span>:<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div>\n<ol>\n<li><strong>Syria will be another Iraq<\/strong>:\u00a0\u201cWe must learn the lessons of the past. Lessons from Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and others. \u2026We must recognize that what happens in Syria does not stay in Syria; the implications for the region are dire.\u201d \u2014Rep. Barbara Lee, D-Calif.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Chaos will ensue<\/strong>:\u00a0\u201cBeyond the potential for escalating the conflict and the killing, we risk danger to our ally Israel, involvement by the Russians and the Iranians, and blowback to the United States by radical groups operating in the region.\u201d \u2014<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Rep. Rick Nolan, D-Minn.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><strong>Americans don\u2019t want it<\/strong>: \u201cAmericans don\u2019t support war in\u00a0Syria and neither does Congress. No clear U.S. interest or strategy. We don\u2019t want entanglement in this war.\u201d \u00a0\u2014Rep. Justin Amash, R-Mich.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Not in our national security interest<\/strong>:\u00a0\u201cAfter over a decade of war in the Middle East, there needs to be compelling evidence that there is an imminent threat to the security of the American people or our allies before any military action is taken. I do not believe that this situation meets that threshold.\u201d \u2014Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.V.<\/li>\n<li><strong>A strike won\u2019t do anything<\/strong>: \u201cIf we\u2019re not going to destroy or secure the [chemical] stocks, if we\u2019re not trying to change the regime, if this is all about making a point\u2014and not a particularly effective one at that\u2014then that strikes me as a rather frivolous use of American military power.\u201d \u2014Rep.\u00a0<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Tom Cole, R-Okla.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><strong>Saving\u00a0credibility\u00a0isn\u2019t a reason to attack:\u00a0<\/strong>\u201cThe United States should only engage militarily when it is pursuing a clear and attainable national security goal. Military action taken simply to send a message or save face does not meet that standard.\u201d \u2014Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Fence Sitters<\/span>:<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<ol>\n<li><strong>We bomb and then what?\u00a0<\/strong>\u201cI\u2019m concerned about the consequences of a military strike in Syria, and what happens with step two, three and four after that.\u201d \u2014Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn.<\/li>\n<li><strong>The resolution needs to be narrowed<\/strong>: \u201cThe White House has put forward a proposed bill authorizing the use of force that, as drafted, is far too broad and open ended, and could be used to justify everything from a limited cruise missile strike to a no fly zone and the introduction of American ground troops\u201d \u2014Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">For<\/span>:<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div>\n<blockquote>\n<ol>\n<li><strong>OK, but make it small<\/strong>: \u201cWhatever action the United States takes, it has to be limited action. This can\u2019t be an open-ended commitment, and it definitely should not lead to American boots on the ground.\u201d \u2014Sen. Al Franken, D-Minn.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Don\u2019t want to embolden Iran<\/strong>:\u00a0\u201cIran is watching to see how we handle this. Iran to see how we respond as a test of how we will respond if and when they create weapons of Mass destruction.\u201d \u2014Rep. Eliot Engel, D-N.Y.<\/li>\n<li><strong>U.S. credibility at stake<\/strong>: Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.latimes.com\/world\/middleeast\/la-fg-obama-syria-20130903,0,5195818.story\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">told reporters<\/a>\u00a0that rejecting a resolution against Syria would be \u201ccatastrophic\u201d and \u201cit would undermine the credibility of the United States of America and the president of the United States. None of us wants that.\u201d<\/li>\n<li><strong>Dictators are watching:<\/strong>\u00a0\u201cIt sends a message to \u2026 the ayatollah in Iran. \u2026 It sends a message to North Korea about our determination to stop them from continuing to make the Korean Peninsula. It sends messages to terrorist groups seek[ing] access to chemical weapons, because the world will largely stand by when you use them.\u201d \u2014Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J.<\/li>\n<li><strong>It\u2019s the American thing to do<\/strong>:\u00a0<em>\u201c<\/em>The United States, for our entire history, has stood up for democracy and freedom for people around the world\u2026only the United States has the capability and the capacity to\u2014to stop Assad and to warn others around the world that this type of behavior is not going to be tolerated.\u201d \u2014House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There\u2019s an interesting article up at Slate today in which they weight the pros and cons of an attack on Syria. I think it\u2019s worth reading. It\u2019s an interesting list of rationale from people both sides of the fence. I\u2019ve pulled just a few out, but it\u2019s worth reading the whole list. 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