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That \u201cInsight into new LDS Church<\/a> policies on same-sex couples and their children\u201d post<\/a>, written by a Michael Worley on Kathryn Skaggs\u2019s blog, is making the rounds. Others like him have been circulating. People seem to think they offer\u00a0compelling arguments. But beyond its presumption (the author has no special insight into God\u2019s and Church leaders\u2019 minds, but claims he does) and its condescension (\u201cBill Nye voice\u201d) lie false analogies and rickety rationalizations.<\/p>\n

Before I analyze Worley\u2019s arguments, however, I\u2019ll recognize the two small points he makes that are actually good.<\/p>\n

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  1. The LDS Church already regulates baptisms pretty stringently\u2013often for good reasons. This idea runs counter to the premise of many opponents of the policy that the Church treats 8 years as the unconditional age of accountability.<\/li>\n
  2. The policy on children\u2019s ordinances has its immediate precedent in the policy regarding the baptism of children from polygamous families, in force since the 1920s. If you want to learn about this, however, visit Ardis Parshall\u2019s actually good post about it<\/a>. (To his credit, Worley has also linked to Ardis\u2019s post.)<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    The rest of the essay, unfortunately, holds water like a sieve.<\/p>\n

    \u00a0<\/p>\n

    I.<\/p>\n

    Worley\u2019s main contention is that close regulation of minors\u2019 baptisms protects the Church, the families of young wannabe Mormons<\/a>, and those young wannabe Mormons themselves. What are they being protected from<\/i>?<\/p>\n

    On the minors\u2019 part, according to Worley, mainly loss of food and shelter. In a world where disowning and shunning because of religious change still occurs, this isn\u2019t an unwarranted fear. However, there are plenty of stories we tell of valiant, pioneering young saints who stand tall on their own or with the Church\u2019s aid when their families reject their new faith. And missionaries regularly encourage tepid investigators to disregard their families\u2019 objections to their baptisms in the face of incontrovertibly confirmed truth. Furthermore, it\u2019s likely that exile from home applies mostly to older children. As when General Authorities tell us not to write them and then regularly quote personal letters from Saints who wrote them, this is an unresolved case of diametrically opposed but concurrent messages.<\/p>\n

    Maintaining access to the bare necessities is hardly the only reason that baptizing children without parental support is discouraged, too; children without familial support have a much harder time remaining active in the LDS Church, and the last thing the Church wants is generations of people baptized at age 9 and inactive ever after. And that\u2019s not even getting into the perverse phenomenon of \u201cbaseball baptisms\u201d\u2013opportunistic \u201cconversions\u201d of minors merely to add to missionaries\u2019 running tallies.<\/p>\n

    After all this, the \u201cprotect the children\u201d rationale finally collapses when you learn that even if a gay couple were to be fully supportive of a child\u2019s baptism, that child would still have to appeal to the First Presidency\u2013not a stake president or even an area authority\u2013to get baptized.<\/p>\n

    Of course, this could be the result of another valid rationale\u2013preserving doctrinal or cultural purity, for instance. But needing to switch rationales reveals the relative weakness of those justifications. If a purpose of \u201cprotecting the children\u201d\u2013a social or sociological rationale\u2013gives way to a purpose of \u201cpreserving purity\u201d\u2013a doctrinal rationale\u2013it\u2019s valid to question how much moral work \u201cprotect the children\u201d did in the first place. Likewise, switching one\u2019s purpose from preserving purity to protecting the children makes doctrine a tool of sociology, weakening it by opening it up to valid sociological critique. Unfortunately, this sort of debilitating rationale-switching is extremely common in LDS discourse on homosexuality (see: Prop 8, Elder Christofferson yesterday).<\/p>\n

    \u00a0<\/p>\n

    II.<\/p>\n

    This leads Worley headfirst into one of his false equivalencies. Acknowledging that \u201cthose who are adults and were raised by same-sex couples\u201d must still receive approval for their baptism from the First Presidency, he compares their situation to that of Muslims wishing to become Mormon. Save in that these regulations supposedly \u201cprotect the candidate\u201d \u201cby helping them be baptized in an environment where they can spiritually grow\u201d\u2013whatever that means\u2013I don\u2019t even know how he thinks these are similar.<\/p>\n

    For one, even if the policy on converts from Islam is widespread, it is unofficial. It\u2019s not in the Handbook. And depending on discretion, prospective Muslim converts only have to be interviewed by a mission president or an area authority seventy. On the other hand, the policy on the children of gay parent(s) is <\/i>in Handbook 1 and they must be recommended for baptism by a bishop or a stake president to the First Presidency<\/i> for approval.<\/p>\n

    But that\u2019s the simple bit. The discrepancy in formality is especially glaring when the risks taken by each convert are juxtaposed.<\/p>\n

    I have an ex-Muslim Mormon friend. When he converted, he knew he was risking his life. Let me repeat: he knew his conversion could result in death. To avoid, well, death,<\/i> he had to cut off all contact with his Arab family, change his legal name, and resolve to never return to his homeland.<\/p>\n

    This dire situation in no way resembles that of adult children of at least one homosexual parent. There\u2019s no militia threatening honor killings of gay couples\u2019 adult children turned Mormon.<\/p>\n

    And though I\u2019m not a betting man, if we want to talk about the physical safety of minors, I\u2019d be willing to lay good money on it that the danger of disowning, abuse, or death is much less for an LDS convert of gay parentage than a gay child of LDS parentage. Sadly.<\/p>\n

    That\u2019s why Church leaders have had to condemn parents who disown and abuse their LGBT children.<\/p>\n

    Because Mormons do that sort of thing often enough to warrant such exhortations.<\/p>\n

    I\u2019ll admit\u2013anecdotal evidence here\u2013I haven\u2019t heard of the inverse occurring. Have you?<\/p>\n

    \u00a0<\/p>\n

    III.<\/p>\n

    The polygamy question deserves the most attention, as it\u2019s the very model that the Church transposed onto gay marriages to create the new policy. Basically, the Church has decided that polygamous marriage and gay marriage are similar enough in some essential (and unspecified) way to merit the same treatment. Rosalynde Welch<\/a> has expressed the problems with this move better than I could:<\/p>\n

    I have two objections to this line of thought: the first that our rather draconian treatment of plural marriage stems from the difficult historical events surrounding the end of the practice, and from the Church\u2019s institutional need to definitively separate itself from fundamentalist sects. Because there is no threat of schism from a gay-marriage Mormon sect, there is no need to adopt the same draconian institutional response to individual gay marriages. \u00a0The second objection would be that the pain this policy causes to gay families is substantially higher than the pain it causes to polygamous families. Plural marriage is embedded in an existing, competing faith community, and to enter plural marriage is to enter this community; few polygamous families seek baptism or mission service in the LDS Church for their children. Gay marriage for Latter-day Saints is not embedded in an existing, competing faith community, and many families who place great value on baptism and mission service in the LDS Church will find themselves caught in this policy if it is enforced consistently according to its plain language.<\/p>\n

    The pain caused is particularly acute when you realize that the Church leaves it unclear whether anyone with a single parent in a homosexual relationship <\/i>will be subject to the new regulations. Children of divorced couples, one of whom is now with a partner of the same sex, might be subject to the rule. The gay parent might not even have to have custody of the child for the prohibition on children\u2019s ordinances to activate. And all this might depend on bishop roulette: some bishops might undertake rooting out children in such situations with less fervor than others.<\/p>\n

    (Interestingly, making each such child appeal to the First Presidency might be an attempt to avoid the unpredictable influence of local leaders on these decisions.)<\/p>\n

    This, then, is the most pressing question the Church must face: what is the category polygamy and gay marriage both fit into, and why are they both so grave as to warrant First Presidency approval of children\u2019s baptisms?<\/p>\n

    However, while the threat of gay marriage schism is minimal (there were two<\/a>such<\/a> schismatic groups, but they were small and died out), the fear of watering down some essential part of marriage or gender doctrine through widespread acceptance of gay marriage would be a much larger concern. Unfortunately, the theology of heterosexuality and gender in the LDS Church is, like much else, almost completely amorphous, with little hope of clarification. (Those eager to import natural law should be acutely aware of and struggle vigorously in conflicts between Mormon metaphysics and the Hellenized Christian metaphysics upon which such ideas are based.)<\/p>\n

    Without such a clarification, we\u2019re likely left with a category of \u201cthe inoperability of ordinances performed in defiance of proper priesthood authority.\u201d (See Ardis\u2019s first point in her addendum<\/a>.) My theologian soul wants more than that, though.<\/p>\n

    \u00a0<\/p>\n

    IV.<\/p>\n

    Worley\u2019s other concern is the characterically Mormon bugbear of \u201ccontention,\u201d trotted out much more often as a method of shutting down uncomfortable conversation than as a purely charitable call for one\u2019s interlocutor to put aside anger. Conflict and secrecy poison human relationships, Worley argues, and if there\u2019s anything the Church abhors, it\u2019s conflict and secrecy. Thus, Worley posits that familial tranquility\u2013via lack of tension, disagreement, or confusion\u2013is the primary objective of restrictions on minors\u2019 conversions.<\/p>\n

    What would cause conflicts dire enough to warrant First Presidency approval for children\u2019s baptisms and forbid infants\u2019 blessings?<\/p>\n

    Worley explains (in \u201cBill Nye voice\u201d): \u201cThe church does a TON to protect children and spouses from being taught one thing at home and another thing at church<\/i>.\u201d<\/p>\n

    And later he adds: \u201cConflicts are inevitable if a child is taught that those the child\u2019s legal guardians are sinners<\/i>\u2014 and the only way for them to stop being sinners is by ending their relationship.\u201d<\/p>\n

    These assertions are build on sandy foundations.<\/p>\n

    The first one posits that the Church defers to parental authority to a degree that one could\u2013not inaccurately\u2013call moral relativism. The Church, accordingly to Worley, avoids preaching anything that might cause cognitive dissonance in children. Sit on that for a second. \u2026 You\u2019ve probably thought of a very common counterexample already. Here are two of mine. Does the Church refuse to baptize the children of unabashed alcoholics in order to sidestep the conflict between the Church\u2019s Word of Wisdom and the parents\u2019 acceptance of other forms of spirits? Does the Church remain silent when a child witnesses her father beating her mother, citing an unwillingness to leave the child confused as to whether her father\u2019s behavior is acceptable? God forbid!<\/p>\n

    (Note: I use these examples to demonstrate that the Church is perfectly fine with intrafamilial cognitive dissonance sometimes\u2013and, indeed, even encourages it. I am not comparing gay marriage to alcoholism and spousal abuse.)<\/p>\n

    The second is even more baffling. First, the Church seldom shies away from condemning sin to avoid conflict. For Worley to suggest otherwise in the midst of a conflict-ridden controversy occasioned solely by the Church condemning a particular sin evinces a singular lack of contextual awareness.<\/p>\n

    What is more, there are plenty of situations beyond gay marriage in which rectifying a child\u2019s legal guardians\u2019 sins would require their separation\u2013and in which children can still be blessed and baptized without First Presidency approval. Missionaries regularly teach unmarried couples, some of whom certainly have children, that they either have to separate or get married in order to comply with the Law of Chastity get baptized. (Marriage, of course, is the preference, but when proven unworkable, separation is the only option.) I knew a family on my mission in which the mother and father had been excommunicated for living together while married to other people\u2013but whose children had all been baptized. Children of adulterers, drug abusers, and murderers do not require First Presidency approval, on the recommendation of a bishop, to get baptized. And the Church willingly and enthusiastically condemns all those sins without concern for ominous intrafamilial \u201cconflict.\u201d<\/p>\n

    Again, the Church should try to explain what makes gay marriage and polygamy a special category of sin. They\u2019re not moral theologians, though, so I don\u2019t expect that any explanation will be forthcoming.<\/p>\n

    Update: as expected, Elder Christofferson\u2019s interview said that the Church regards same-sex marriage as a special type of sin\u2013not what defines that particular type and makes it so egregious.<\/p>\n

    We\u2019re left to speculate. But recognize that we\u2019re speculating, awaiting further light and knowledge.<\/p>\n

    \u00a0<\/p>\n

    V.<\/p>\n

    But let\u2019s take a moment, step back, and steelman Worley\u2019s arguments about conflict and protecting the children by combining them. That is, let\u2019s do the opposite of attacking a strawman version of his arguments (however close to being strawman arguments they are) and instead make them stronger, then taking on the strengthened form of the arguments.<\/p>\n

    Children can face significant turmoil when they are told that the purpose of life is for families to be together forever\u2013but that theirs, which does not fit the mold, cannot. One LDS friend of mine, for instance, agonized about the doctrine of eternal families. Her father had been severely abusive of her mother and they had divorced; they had never gotten sealed in the temple. There was little prospect of her mother, irascible and abusive in her own right, getting remarried or sealed\u2013not to mention that my friend wasn\u2019t keen on spending eternity with her father\u2013so my friend was left without connections in the eternities. My friend was around 20 when she was having these feelings, and they\u2019re the sort of thing that can pursue a person throughout an entire life. Placing higher barriers on Church entry for people who might be thus afflicted\u2013even past age 18\u2013might spare them that turmoil. However, simply erecting higher barriers would not prevent all emotional turmoil even in someone who has surpassed the barrier.<\/p>\n

    I am also certain that the Church does not want its ordinances weaponized in interparental conflicts for children\u2019s loyalties. In the instance of a child having divorced parents, one of whom is in a homosexual relationship, there is the possibility that the a parent could use the child\u2019s baptism (or the denial thereof) at age 8 to drive a wedge between the child and the other parent. Postponing the ordinance until age 18 makes it the child\u2019s legal choice, not the manipulations of a parent on whom the child depends for material and emotional support. Of course, there might still be conflicts for children\u2019s loyalties after 18, but custody is in the past.<\/p>\n

    \u00a0<\/p>\n

    VI.<\/p>\n

    And some independent notes on Elder Christofferson\u2019s interview.<\/p>\n

    He repeats Worley\u2019s assertion that this is about preventing cognitive dissonance in children. (Maybe Worley, as his post seemed to presume, does <\/i>have a backdoor into the minds of the Brethren.) In any case, my objections to this line of reasoning still stand: the Church doesn\u2019t prevent cognitive dissonance in other respects, and it\u2019s mere sociology, important but relatively weak. That this rationale comes from an apostle\u2019s lips doesn\u2019t evaporate its problems.<\/p>\n

    He says that the situation with polygamous families is analogous to that of gay families, explaining that children from such families must disavow polygamy before they serve missions. This makes sense. Missionaries have demonstrated a propensity toward doctrinal extremism and immature mining of LDS historical sources that together have led to some missionaries preaching polygamy to be the order of heaven (see France, 1958<\/a>). It\u2019s good to make that clear. However, that the Church still practices polygyny in temple sealings\u2013including the marriages of Elders Nelson and Oaks\u2013doesn\u2019t help dissuade such overzealous wannabe Brighams. I\u2019ve met a good number of active, orthodox LDS members who believe polygamy is not only morally acceptable but even laudable. In contrast:<\/p>\n

      \n
    1. there aren\u2019t any apostles currently in gay marriages;<\/li>\n
    2. the Church doesn\u2019t have a history celebrating, praising, and exalting gay marriage that it\u2019s trying to jettison; and<\/li>\n
    3. I\u2019ve never heard of any missionaries preaching that gay marriage is a-okay by the LDS Church, and doubt that they would after all the Sturm und Drang.<\/i><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

      In short, please stop treating Worley\u2019s post as if it\u2019s an answer to the questions raised by the new policy or some especial revelation. It\u2019s not; quite the contrary. Its explanations are vague platitudes, its answers are nothing of the sort, its comparisons are flawed, and its rationales are easily deflated. Perhaps worst, it claims self-evident insight into the Lord\u2019s workings\u2013that one of its points was later restated by an apostle does not excuse its presumption\u2013while speaking to those confused and hurt as if they\u2019re little children in need of a primer.<\/p>\n

      Feel free to quote Elder Christofferson when he reiterates Worley\u2019s points, but the Kingdom of God and its leaders deserve to be represented by more thoughtful spokespeople than Worley. Don\u2019t cite him or others like him.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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