{"id":541,"date":"2011-09-16T16:16:26","date_gmt":"2011-09-16T20:16:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/phoenixandolivebranch.wordpress.com\/?p=541"},"modified":"2014-07-03T11:29:36","modified_gmt":"2014-07-03T15:29:36","slug":"a-historical-puzzle-branham-the-apostles-and-vision-forum","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/phoenixandolivebranch\/2011\/09\/a-historical-puzzle-branham-the-apostles-and-vision-forum\/","title":{"rendered":"A Historical Puzzle: Branham, the Apostles, and Vision Forum"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><span style=\"color:#000000\"><a href=\"https:\/\/phoenixandolivebranch.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/09\/branhamwbible.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"color:#000000\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-561\" src=\"https:\/\/phoenixandolivebranch.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/09\/branhamwbible.jpg?w=300\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"216\"><\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color:#000000\">Message of the Hour believers claim that William Branham was the last of seven prophets to \u201crestore\u201d the Bride of Christ to life as it was in the days of the apostles. For most believers, this means restoring miracles and divine healing, so Message believers insist that they have been given power to cast out the spirits that cause sickness. The \u201cthird pull\u201d for which they are waiting (last I heard, anyway) is generally interpreted as the power to create through speech, just as God created the world by saying \u201clet there be\u201d in Genesis.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color:#000000\">There is a particular kind of history being sold here. Message believers are <a title=\"Wikipedia: Dispensationalism\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Dispensationalism\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"color:#000000\">dispensationalist<\/span><\/a>. This means that they believe God has steadily revealed one new truth (via messengers like Luther, Wesley, etc.) to each age over the course of history: <a title=\"The Seven Church Ages book was plagiarized from Clarence Larkin\" href=\"http:\/\/phoenixandolivebranch.wordpress.com\/2011\/05\/22\/nathan-rivera-ebook\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"color:#000000\">Seven Church Ages<\/span><\/a>, to be precise. By the last age, the whole Truth was to be revealed\u2026 by Branham.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color:#000000\">(By the way, isn\u2019t it funny how none of the church fathers Branham referenced saw themselves as part of this chain of events or anticipated his arrival?)<!--more--><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color:#000000\">Branham used the <a title=\"Branham - The Seed Not Heir with the Shuck\" href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;cd=8&amp;ved=0CE4QFjAH&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.branham.ru%2Fmessage%2Fpdf%2F65-0218.pdf&amp;rct=j&amp;q=branham%20seed%20die%20ground%20bring%20forth&amp;ei=c69zTqWgDMqksQKA0tSLBQ&amp;usg=AFQjCNHiAxCF1gKvGLp6w8JiAweIcjdDvg&amp;cad=rja\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"color:#000000\">analogy of a wheat or corn seed<\/span><\/a> reproducing to illustrate this dispensationalist history. According to him, the first Christian martyrs were the seeds that literally \u201cwent into the ground\u201d (were killed) to give life to the plant that is Christianity. Then came the first shoots, stalk, leaves, husk and finally the corn (or wheat). The very last stage is thus to be identical to the original. Message believers think that they are being restored to life as it was for the apostles.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color:#000000\">There\u2019s a hitch in this neat little story. Branham died in 1965, before there even <em>was<\/em> a \u201cMessage of the Hour\u201d network of churches. He died <em>long<\/em> before the Message adopted many of its new tenets. For example, I don\u2019t know of many Message believers who date rather than court. Most have taken on Josh Harris\u2019s <em>I Kissed Dating Goodbye<\/em> as part of their unspoken creed. (<em>Saying<\/em> you don\u2019t have a creed is different from not actually having one.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color:#000000\">I know of very few Message believers who don\u2019t homeschool or use materials from Vision Forum, Nancy Campbell, and Michael and Debi Pearl. Acceptance of these materials is also part of the unspoken Message creed. As \u201cmainstream\u201d fundamentalist culture grows more and more extreme (no sex before marriage! \u2013&gt; no kissing! \u2013&gt; no touching! \u2013&gt; no talking alone! \u2013&gt; no emotional connections! \u2013&gt; give your heart to your father for safekeeping!), Message believers move with it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color:#000000\">So, if William Branham brought the final message and restored the days of the apostles already by 1965\u2026 what\u2019s all this other stuff? There was no courtship movement, there were no purity balls, there were no <em>To Train Up a Child<\/em> or <em>Created to be His Helpmeet<\/em> in 1965. There was no Homeschool Legal Defense Association. But just you try taking those things away from Message believers, and see how \u201clost\u201d and \u201cworldly\u201d they feel. <em>Their<\/em> kids would never go on a date!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color:#000000\">Either Branham didn\u2019t bring <em>all<\/em> the truth, or all this stuff is inconsequential fluff that could be thrown out without incurring any damage. Which is it?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color:#000000\">There\u2019s another possibility: that Branham was just one mid-twentieth century fundamentalist preacher among many, and that Vision Forum and its ilk are part of a cultural movement that is more about family structure and the supremacy of middle class conservative values than about faith.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Message of the Hour believers claim that William Branham was the last of seven prophets to \u201crestore\u201d the Bride of Christ to life as it was in the days of the apostles. 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