{"id":918,"date":"2012-05-15T16:20:52","date_gmt":"2012-05-15T20:20:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/phoenixandolivebranch.wordpress.com\/?p=918"},"modified":"2014-07-03T11:28:42","modified_gmt":"2014-07-03T15:28:42","slug":"prediction-vs-prophecy-nitpicking-to-salvage-a-lie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/phoenixandolivebranch\/2012\/05\/prediction-vs-prophecy-nitpicking-to-salvage-a-lie\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Prediction&#8221; vs. &#8220;Prophecy&#8221;: Nitpicking to Salvage a Lie"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><figure id=\"attachment_920\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-920\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/phoenixandolivebranch.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/05\/self-driving-cars-circa-1958.png\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-920\" src=\"https:\/\/phoenixandolivebranch.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/05\/self-driving-cars-circa-1958.png?w=300\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"262\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-920\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">1950s self-driving car concept sketch. Branham claimed to see this very image in a vision.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p><p>In the <a title=\"WHAS11 News\" href=\"http:\/\/www.whas11.com\/video\/featured-videos\/Exclusive-I-Team-Investigation-into-Ind-religious-group-151386375.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">WHAS11 News coverage<\/a> of William Branham and the Message, they aired a video clip in which Branham is seen vehemently voicing his prediction that the Second Coming of Jesus will happen in 1977. How do Message believers reconcile this claim with the fact that we\u2019re living in 2012? By conveniently latching onto one word and spinning it out into a doctrine of its own.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe have exactly \u2013 listen! \u2013 seventeen years left,\u201d Branham said, in a definitive tone of voice.<\/p>\n<p>My church taught that William Branham was human and fallible, except when he was \u201cunder the annointing\u201d as he preached. On such occasions, he was filled with not only the Holy Spirit, but also the \u201cspirit of Elijah,\u201d which was never wrong. The result of this doctrine is this: Everything Branham <em>predicted<\/em>\u00a0would happen was his fallible human self guessing. However, everything he <em>prophesied<\/em>\u00a0was God speaking through him. His 1977 claim falls under the \u201cprediction\u201d category (because it was wrong). This means that it was a \u201cmistaken human assumption\u201d that can\u2019t be used to discredit Branham as a prophet. Other statements that haven\u2019t been proven wrong yet (although some have been proven <a title=\"John Kennah forums\" href=\"http:\/\/forums.delphiforums.com\/kennah\/messages?msg=2184.25\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">plagiarized<\/a>, such as his <a href=\"http:\/\/presenttruthmn.com\/blog\/7-visions-william-branham-1933\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">self-driving<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Kn7VDRQJ6ts\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">egg-shaped car<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/phoenixandolivebranch.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/05\/self-driving-cars-circa-1958.png\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">vision<\/a>) are described as \u201cprophecies,\u201d which means they are absolutely true and can be used as evidence that Branham\u00a0<em>is\u00a0<\/em>a prophet.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_923\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-923\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/phoenixandolivebranch.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/05\/nbgeddes.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-923\" src=\"https:\/\/phoenixandolivebranch.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/05\/nbgeddes.jpg?w=300\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"197\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-923\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Norman Bel Geddes concept car from 1939 New York World\u2019s Fair, \u201cFuturama\u201d exhibit. More <a title=\"tumblr: Norman Bel Geddes motorcars\" href=\"http:\/\/sorethumbart.tumblr.com\/post\/18055770537\/norman-bel-geddes-motor-cars\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">here<\/a>.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Basically, you\u2019re not allowed to call Branham a liar. If he said anything wrong, he did it by himself and it was an honest mistake; but if he said anything right, it was God vindicating his ministry.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the WHAS11 News coverage of William Branham and the Message, they aired a video clip in which Branham is seen vehemently voicing his prediction that the Second Coming of Jesus will happen in 1977. How do Message believers reconcile this claim with the fact that we\u2019re living in 2012? 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