{"id":319,"date":"2015-11-04T16:39:01","date_gmt":"2015-11-04T20:39:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/protestprotest\/?p=319"},"modified":"2015-11-04T16:39:01","modified_gmt":"2015-11-04T20:39:01","slug":"reformation-day-afterglow","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/protestprotest\/2015\/11\/reformation-day-afterglow\/","title":{"rendered":"Reformation Day Afterglow"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Peter Leithart\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/ethikapolitika.org\/2015\/10\/28\/what-i-want-from-catholics-become-protestant\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">want-list<\/a> for 2015:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I want the Pope to give up his claim to infallibility. In our day, the Papacy stands as a global symbol of Christian faith, and popes of recent decades have been among the greatest Christian leaders of recent history. The Pope is a universal teacher, a stout defender of Christian morals, a living icon of charity, a father to princes and presidents. None of that makes him a definer of dogma. No matter how narrowly tailored papal infallibility may be, it is theologically and historically unfounded, as Lord Acton knew.<\/p>\n<p>I want the Pope to give up his claim to exclusive primacy. Why not be content with being primus inter pares among the ancient sees? Suppose Peter was the first Bishop of Rome: Didn\u2019t he leave it to Paul to lead the mission to the Gentiles? Besides, should we not be open to the possibility that the center of Christian gravity will shift dramatically in the future? In 3000 years, might not the Bishop of Beijing or Lagos or Brasilia be the actual primate of the Church? In 10,000 years, will Vatican-centered Christendom be anything more than a distant memory?<\/p>\n<p>Catholics Should Give Up<\/p>\n<p>I want Catholics to give up their sectarian exclusiveness. Jesus and His Spirit are present in the suburban Bible church, the Chinese house group, the <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/pentecostal' target='_blank'>Pentecostal<\/a> assembly at one of Rio\u2019s garbage dumps. The Son and Spirit have promised to be wherever word is preached and bread broken, where disciples strive together toward maturity in Christ. These assemblies are no less churches than the congregation of St. Patrick\u2019s. Fellowship with Rome is not the same as fellowship with Jesus; submission to Rome is not the same as catholicity. Jesus and His Spirit do not observe Vatican protocols.<\/p>\n<p>I want Catholics to stop spreading pious falsehoods about Mary. Protestants have unjustly neglected Mary\u2019s central role in the Bible and redemption, but Catholic Marian dogmas are a cure worse than the disease. I want Catholics to honor Mary by giving up inventions like the immaculate conception and the assumption. Failing that, I would be content if these speculations were treated as speculative opinions rather than dogmas.<\/p>\n<p>I want a Catholic to explain how Mary, a Jewish woman of the first-century A.D., can simultaneously hear the appeals of millions of people who speak dozens of languages that she never learned. I know Catholics don\u2019t believe Mary has become God, but that looks like something only a God could manage.<\/p>\n<p>I want Catholic theologians to give up the pretense that the dogma of the Church has never changed. When they try to explain that nothing substantive has changed between Trent and Vatican II, when they distinguish between unchangeable doctrine and changeable formulations of doctrine, they appear disingenuous. I prefer the old free church Independents, who eagerly expected the Spirit to break out fresh light from Scripture.<\/p>\n<p>Worse, the premise of unchangeability makes it impossible for the Church to repent of mistakes. Catholics don\u2019t think Vatican I, for example, will ever need to be overturned; it cannot be. But that means either that there will never be full reunion with Protestants and Orthodox, or that Catholic theologians must find a way to massage Vatican I so that it doesn\u2019t say what it manifestly says. The possibility of saying \u201cthe church erred\u201d is excluded in principle.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"Yosephus%20at%20Dutch%20Wikipedia%20%5BCC%20BY-SA%202.5%20(http:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-sa\/2.5)%5D,%20via%20Wikimedia%20Commons\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Image by Yosephus<\/a><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Peter Leithart\u2019s want-list for 2015: I want the Pope to give up his claim to infallibility. In our day, the Papacy stands as a global symbol of Christian faith, and popes of recent decades have been among the greatest Christian leaders of recent history. The Pope is a universal teacher, a stout defender of Christian [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2170,"featured_media":320,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[154,285,61,124],"tags":[347,266],"class_list":["post-319","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-doctrine","category-ministry","category-protestantism","category-roman-catholicism","tag-peter-leithart","tag-reformation"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Reformation Day Afterglow<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Peter Leithart&#039;s want-list for 2015: I want the Pope to give up his claim to infallibility. 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