{"id":24633,"date":"2014-10-16T14:52:49","date_gmt":"2014-10-16T20:52:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/publiccatholic\/?p=24633"},"modified":"2014-10-16T22:32:25","modified_gmt":"2014-10-17T04:32:25","slug":"cardinal-kasper-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/publiccatholic\/2014\/10\/cardinal-kasper-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-interview\/","title":{"rendered":"Cardinal Kasper and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Interview"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/254\/2014\/10\/cardkasper2_resized_2.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-24635\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/254\/2014\/10\/cardkasper2_resized_2.jpg\" alt=\"cardkasper2_resized_2\" width=\"259\" height=\"400\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Cardinal Kasper says he didn\u2019t say it.<\/p>\n<p>The reporter says he\u2019s got it on tape.<\/p>\n<p><em>\u201c<\/em>It\u201d is the terrible, horrible, no good, very bad interview that Cardinal Kasper gave yesterday. I can understand why Cardinal Kasper is doing his best to unsay what he said. He truly did open his clerical mouth and insert both his priestly feet.<\/p>\n<p>His terrible, horrible, no good, very bad interview began with a few off-the-cuff remarks about how the bishops from Africa were opposing what Cardinal Kasper wants the Synod on the Family to do. If the quotes are correct, the Cardinal came across like a grand dame sniffing her titled nose at the effrontery of serving salads on warm salad plates. He might as well have said, It is, you see, just <em>not done,\u00a0<\/em>but then, you know these colonials; all feathers and drums with no class.<\/p>\n<p>He ended that little riff with a snippy comment to the effect that, while African bishops had to deal with <em>their <\/em>reality, that didn\u2019t mean that their opinions should be taken seriously by the bishops from the more enlightened parts of the world.<\/p>\n<p>If you want to listen to the interview,<a href=\"http:\/\/edwardpentin.co.uk\/statement-on-cardinal-kasper-interview\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"> go here.<\/a>\u00a0If you can read German (I can\u2019t) I\u2019m told you will find the Cardinal\u2019s denial of the whole thing <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kath.net\/news\/47956\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">here<\/a>. If you\u2019d like to read intelligent commentary \u2014 as opposed to the big nnnnhhhh I\u2019ve giving you here \u2014 check out <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/deaconsbench\/2014\/10\/i-am-shocked-cardinal-kasper-denies-statements-about-african-bishops\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Deacon Greg Kandra<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/theanchoress\/2014\/10\/15\/these-africans-kasper-reverses-progressive-dogma\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">The Anchoress<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>I punted on \u201cthe interview\u201d and didn\u2019t write about it yesterday because I\u2019d already decided that Cardinal Kasper was a few cards short of a full theological deck.<\/p>\n<p>I know. Who am I to say that? The answer, of course, is that I\u2019m nobody. I am a pew-sitting convert from <em>Oklahoma<\/em>, of all backward places.<\/p>\n<p>But I can\u2019t help thinking with my backward little Okie brain\u00a0(which\u00a0I\u2019m sure would rank considerably below an African brain.) What I\u2019ve been thinking for a while now is that Cardinal Kasper\u2019s recent spate of press conferences sound like an interview for the position of Catholicism\u2019s answer to Episcopalian Bishop <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/John_Shelby_Spong\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Shelby Spong<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Cardinal Kasper seems to like being interviewed, at least most of the time. <a title=\"Three Cardinals \u2014 and I Don\u2019t Mean Baseball Players \u2014 and Their Grand Slam of Confusion\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/publiccatholic\/2014\/09\/three-cardinals-and-i-dont-mean-baseball-players-and-their-grand-slam-of-confusion\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">He\u2019s\u00a0been running to the press on a regular basis<\/a> to engage in an unseemly spite fight\u00a0with his brother bishops. The quotes from his foot-in-mouth interview were a bit of a face-palm moment for some people, but I was, by the time I read them, all done with paying attention to Cardinal Kasper and his press peccadilloes.<\/p>\n<p>Cardinal Kasper\u2019s terrible, horrible, no good, very bad interview doesn\u2019t, in my opinion, reveal him to be a racist so much as it pinpoints him as a self-important snob. That\u2019s\u00a0pretty much the message I got from Cardinal Kasper\u2019s comment.<\/p>\n<p>Those \u201cAfricans\u201d and their backward countries just can\u2019t be expected to exercise the enlightened Christianity of the Church of What\u2019s Happening Now. Poor things. They can\u2019t help it. We need to be nice to them, but certainly not let their third-world hang-ups get in the way of our first-world compassion and tolerance.<\/p>\n<p>The Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Interview has boiled itself down to a he-said-it-and-I\u2019ve-got-him-on-tape-saying-it\/I-didn\u2019t-say-it-and-I\u2019m-not-that-kind-of-guy deal between Cardinal Kasper and Edward Pentin, the reporter who told on him. I can\u2019t see any way that is going to end well for the Cardinal. My advice to him is just belly up to the bar and tell the truth, which is most likely \u201cI didn\u2019t mean it the way it came out.\u201d He can follow that by saying \u201cI denied it because I was embarrassed to admit it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That would be humiliating, especially for someone as much in love with himself as the Cardinal appears to be. But it might also end up being spiritually edifying to him.<\/p>\n<p>As for me, I have no desire whatsoever to flog the poor Cardinal for his foot in mouth disease. It really does happen to all of us from time to time. The truth is:<\/p>\n<p>Things often look all different in print than they sounded in your own ears when you were saying them. That\u2019s just a fact.<\/p>\n<p>Anybody who talks to the press a lot is going to, as we Okies say, come a cropper at some point. That\u2019s another fact.<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t want to keel-haul Cardinal Kasper for his Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Interview.<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t even want to scold him for it.<\/p>\n<p>My beef with the Cardinal is more fundamental. It\u2019s about that Jesus guy.<\/p>\n<p>You know. The One Who said What God hath joined\u00a0together, let not man put asunder.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Note: The Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Interview is a play on the title of a book by Judith Viorst.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Cardinal Kasper says he didn\u2019t say it. The reporter says he\u2019s got it on tape. \u201cIt\u201d is the terrible, horrible, no good, very bad interview that Cardinal Kasper gave yesterday. I can understand why Cardinal Kasper is doing his best to unsay what he said. 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