{"id":11529,"date":"2012-12-18T20:19:29","date_gmt":"2012-12-19T01:19:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/?p=11529"},"modified":"2012-12-18T20:19:29","modified_gmt":"2012-12-19T01:19:29","slug":"am-i-wrong-about-the-massacre-of-the-innocents","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2012\/12\/am-i-wrong-about-the-massacre-of-the-innocents.html","title":{"rendered":"Am I Wrong About the Massacre of the Innocents?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

First, let\u2019s have some appropriate music to go with this post:<\/p>\nhttp:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=xNN9PAw_6gQ<\/a>\n

Now, on with the post!<\/p>\n

Tony Jones has suggested in a blog post<\/a> that I am wrong in what I wrote about the massacre of the innocents<\/a>.<\/p>\n

He is wrong about my wrongness, and this post is to explain why.<\/p>\n

The heart of the problem is that he is approaching the question as a theological one, not a historical one. That is the danger, I suppose, we all face when interacting across disciplinary divides.<\/p>\n

Tony writes, among other things, \u201cLike many liberals, he brushes off the deeper implications of the text in order to assuage his modern sensibilities\u2026James wants to mythologize this story because that lets God off the hook.\u201d He is mistaken about my motives. I am quite happy to acknowledge that there are disturbing, even horrific things found within the Bible. In this case, I expressed relief after the fact that the incident probably never occurred. But my reasoning is historical, and my reaction a response to the results of historical investigation.<\/p>\n

And that is the main problem. Tony doesn\u2019t discuss the case for the historicity or otherwise of the incident Matthew describes. He seems vaguely aware that there are some historical questions, when he writes,<\/p>\n

It\u2019s true that we don\u2019t know how many infant boys Herod murdered. We don\u2019t know if it was just the sons of a couple families, a village, or a whole territory. But does it matter?!?Innocent infants were killed. They were not myths. They were not fables. They were babies!<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

The truth is that we do not know that innocent infants were killed. We have no record in any other source about this event. That doesn\u2019t mean we can be certain it never occurred, and perhaps I could have avoided this misunderstanding if I had offered a lengthy introduction to my post<\/a>. But I feared that if I did so, the point I wanted to focus on there would be lost in the process. And it seems from the comments on Tony\u2019s post<\/a> that most people who read my post did not misunderstand me in the way Tony did.<\/p>\n

\"\"Ironically, because Tony has justifiable concerns that the text not be misused for theological ends, Tony ends up ignoring the crucial historical question, which has to be paramount when we ask what did or did not occur. We do not say that the Holocaust occurred because otherwise it would let God off the hook. We say that it occurred because the evidence is clear and undeniable, and includes people who lived through it. And if we ask whether Israelites invaded Canaan and slaughtered Canaanites, the answer to that question must be based on the historical evidence, not because it either does or does not let God or Israelites off the hook.<\/p>\n

Tony is legitimately concerned that historical people not be turned into fables. But we must also have the reverse concern, that fictional accounts not be misconstrued as factual ones.<\/p>\n

In this case, although it is possible that Herod killing a few children in a small village simply didn\u2019t get mentioned by any other source, we cannot know that. What we do know is that we have two accounts of the infancy of Jesus which are incompatible in their details<\/a>. And we know that most ancient infancy stories were mythological and symbolic ways of emphasizing a person\u2019s importance without much historical information. And we know that Matthew was interested in highlighting similarities and differences between Jesus and Moses, and the irony of the poor reception Jesus got in Israel. And so a historian justifiably suspects that the infancy narrative is a literary creation intended to introduce major themes which will be to the fore in the rest of the Gospel \u2013 the story of an individual about whom it was believed that, if he was so significant, his birth must have been remarkable too.<\/p>\n

And so the good news, for Tony, is that there are plenty of other texts and events where the historical evidence raises the issue. There is no need to insist on the historicity of ones which are doubtful or unlikely on historical grounds.<\/p>\n

The bad news, for Tony, is this:<\/p>\n

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