{"id":12814,"date":"2013-02-06T10:31:43","date_gmt":"2013-02-06T15:31:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/?p=12814"},"modified":"2013-02-06T10:31:43","modified_gmt":"2013-02-06T15:31:43","slug":"the-early-high-christology-club","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2013\/02\/the-early-high-christology-club.html","title":{"rendered":"The Early High Christology Club"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

Larry Hurtado has a post<\/a> about the group of scholars who have come to refer to themselves in humorous fashion as the \u201cEarly High Christology Club.\u201d The post includes this delightful story which Larry told me and some others at dinner one evening at SBL in Chicago:<\/p>\n

\"\"An incident often cited subsequently took place after an annual meeting of the \u201cDivine Mediators in Antiquity Group\u201d that featured invited presentations from James D. G. Dunn and Maurice Casey (who each took somewhat different views on the origins of \u201chigh Christology,\u201d both of them tending to see it as a somewhat later development).\u00a0 After the meeting concluded, Dunn and Casey joined Capes, Hurtado, Newman and Segal for dinner at a Greek restaurant.\u00a0 After Segal (who spoke modern Greek) ordered for the group and wine was poured, Newman (with characteristic mischief) proposed a toast \u201cTo early high Christology.\u201d\u00a0 Capes, Hurtado and Segal raised their glasses, while Dunn and Casey hesitated.\u00a0 After a few seconds, Dunn raised his glass with a smile saying, \u201cTo high Christology\u201d, and after a few more seconds Casey (with a twinkle in his eye) raised his glass toasting, \u201cTo Christology\u201d.\u00a0 (At some point thereafter, Newman in good-natured teasing proposed that Dunn and Casey be accorded leading status in an affiliate group, \u201cThe Late, Low and Slow Club\u201d of early Christology.)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

It is great that scholars can be good humored about their disagreements. For those readers interested in Christology, how do you view the origins and development of Christian thinking about Jesus? Was he accorded a status that could be considered \u201cdivine\u201d early on, and if so, in what sense? Was it a status that it was theoretically acceptable for a human being to occupy in Jewish thought in that time? If this developed over time, what do you think caused the development?<\/p>\n

My own views on this topic can be found in my books, The Only True God: Early Christian Monotheism in Its Jewish Context<\/a>\"\"<\/em> and John\u2019s Apologetic Christology: Legitimation and Development in Johannine Christology (Society for New Testament Studies Monograph Series)<\/a>\"\"<\/em>.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Larry Hurtado has a post about the group of scholars who have come to refer to themselves in humorous fashion as the \u201cEarly High Christology Club.\u201d The post includes this delightful story which Larry told me and some others at dinner one evening at SBL in Chicago: An incident often cited subsequently took place after […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":136,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[11,67],"tags":[1858,2924,4663,5530,6350,7155],"class_list":["post-12814","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-christology","category-new-testament-bible","tag-christology","tag-early-high-christology-club","tag-history-of-religions","tag-james-d-g-dunn","tag-larry-hurtado","tag-maurice-casey"],"yoast_head":"\nThe Early High Christology Club<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Larry Hurtado has a post about the group of scholars who have come to refer to themselves in humorous fashion as the "Early High Christology Club." 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