{"id":1464,"date":"2010-03-23T12:11:00","date_gmt":"2010-03-23T12:11:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2010\/03\/the-demiurge-and-other-folks-in-the-biblioblogosphere\/"},"modified":"2010-03-23T12:11:00","modified_gmt":"2010-03-23T12:11:00","slug":"the-demiurge-and-other-folks-in-the-biblioblogosphere","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2010\/03\/the-demiurge-and-other-folks-in-the-biblioblogosphere.html","title":{"rendered":"The Demiurge (and Other Folks) in the Biblioblogosphere"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Michael Bird suggests that <a href=\"http:\/\/euangelizomai.blogspot.com\/2010\/03\/jewish-origins-of-gnosticism.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Gnosticism originated in a Jewish context<\/a>. I am inclined to agree, particularly in light of my work on the Mandaeans. More should be done\u00a0to compare Gnosticism with\u00a0other examples of one group\u2019s god(s) becoming another group\u2019s demon(s). There are examples from Egypt\u2019s history of a deity being demoted or reinterpreted, as well as in the terminology of Indian tradition vis-a-vis Iranian.<\/p>\n<p>Chet Raymo looks at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sciencemusings.com\/blog\/2010\/03\/come-hither.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">the handiwork of the demiurge in creating the mosquito<\/a>. Jesus Creed continues looking at <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2010\/03\/what-role-naturalism-2---insig.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">intelligent design and naturalism<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Noticing an <a href=\"http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/2\/hi\/health\/8580146.stm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">article <\/a>about the increasing size of the food portions in the Last Supper, <a href=\"http:\/\/theconnexion.net\/wp\/?p=7249\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Richard Hall came up with a perfect headline<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Jonathan Robinson suggests that <a href=\"http:\/\/xenos-theology.blogspot.com\/2010\/03\/2-cor-121-5-is-paul-just-taking-mickey.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Paul was \u201ctaking the Mickey\u201d in 2 Corinthians 12<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Tripp Fuller shares <a href=\"http:\/\/homebrewedchristianity.com\/2010\/03\/22\/live-options-in-the-study-of-religion\/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+HomebrewedChristianity+%28Homebrewed+Christianity%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">live options (with pdf downloads) in the study of religion<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Never Enough Sundays looks at the <a href=\"http:\/\/neverenoughsundays.blogspot.com\/2010\/03\/proclaiming-name-of-jesus.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Jesus Metropolitan Community Church here in Indianapolis<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>And last but far from least (indeed, in conjunction with the most comments on a thread <em>ever<\/em>) <a href=\"http:\/\/ancienthebrewpoetry.typepad.com\/ancient_hebrew_poetry\/2010\/03\/james-mcgrath-calls-me-a-liberal-my-response-1.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ancienthebrewpoetry+%28Ancient+Hebrew+Poetry%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">John Hobbins tells the world I\u2019ve called him a liberal<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/ancienthebrewpoetry.typepad.com\/ancient_hebrew_poetry\/2010\/03\/james-mcgrath-calls-me-a-liberal-my-response-2.html#more\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">expounds on what he feels makes him conservative<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/7622297540113836091-3884420037879236061?l=exploringourmatrix.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Michael Bird suggests that Gnosticism originated in a Jewish context. 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