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\"\"<\/span>I was interested to read a review at the blog Broadcast Depth<\/a> of a book entitled Putting Jesus in His Place<\/em><\/a>\u00a0written by Robert M. Bowman and J. Ed Komoszewski. The topic is the deity of Christ, and it apparently takes an approach outlined with the acronym \u201cHANDS\u201d: <\/div>\n
\"Putting<\/a><\/div>\n
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Honors: Jesus shares the honors due to God.<\/div>\n
Attributes: Jesus shares the attributes of God.<\/div>\n

Names: Jesus shares the names of God.
Deeds: Jesus shares in the deeds that God does.
Seat: Jesus shares the seat of God\u2019s throne. [p. 23]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

What caught my interest is that I discuss precisely these themes in my book The Only True God<\/em><\/a>\"\"<\/em>, but draw rather different conclusions in a number of important respects.<\/div>\n

Daniel Kirk just recently discussed the subject of sitting on the divine throne and receiving worship<\/a>, and so I\u2019ll defer to him. The main thing I will highlight is that what we find is Jesus doing various things God is said to do, receiving honor and titles that are God\u2019s, yet at the same time also depicted as sent by God and doing God\u2019s will. Is there any better way of making sense of the data than the concept of agency<\/em>, which affirms (to quote the famous Rabbinic maxim) that \u201cthe one sent is like the one who sent him\u201d? Simply speaking about \u201cdivinity\u201d or \u201cidentity\u201d as though such terminology is unambiguous doesn\u2019t clarify things. But pointing out that we have Jesus treated as what we might call an extension of the divine identity, and yet also treated as a separate, subordinate person, seems to fit better within an agency model than in others.<\/p>\n

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The book itself seems\u00a0to clearly be\u00a0a work of apologetics<\/a> rather than scholarship. From Matt\u2019s description, the authors make claims such as that the name Jesus, meaning \u201cJehovah saves,\u201d identifies Jesus as Jehovah. Clearly if that sort of principle is applied most of the characters in the Bible are divine, since their names have theophoric elements.<\/p>\n

For those interested in Christology, Jimmy Dunn\u2019s book on the question of whether the first Christians worshipped Jesus is presented on the SPCK web site<\/a>, and is listed as due out this month in the UK<\/a>, although it looks like it still won\u2019t be out for a couple of months yet in the US<\/a>\"\".<\/p>\n

Of course, whether in terms of the Spirit\u2019s activity in the life of Jesus as depicted in all the canonical Gospels, or the \u201cbecoming flesh\u201d of the Word in John, there is language used that extends the \u201cessence\u201d of God into the sphere of Jesus\u2019 human life. For me, the interesting question is why such statements are unlikely to be considered adequate by most conservative Christians. Most if not indeed all of the New Testament evidence fits best within the framework of ancient Jewish concepts of agency, and texts like John which develop these ideas in distinctive ways also leave a great many questions unanswered. Among the most interesting, I think, is what the relationship is between the pre-existent Logos and the pre-existent Messianic Son of Man in that author\u2019s thinking. This\u00a0makes it challenging to figure\u00a0out whether and to what extent by the end of the New Testament period, the human agent had been identified with or as a divine agent, and in what sense. It is precisely those loose ends that would drive the church\u2019s Christological thought and debates in the centuries that followed \u2013 and indeed until today. <\/p>\n

On a not unrelated topic, Luke Johns has an amusing\u00a0post on how to distinguish between metaphorical and literal statements in the Bible<\/a>.<\/p>\n

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