{"id":17093,"date":"2013-08-26T16:14:05","date_gmt":"2013-08-26T20:14:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/?p=17093"},"modified":"2013-08-26T16:14:05","modified_gmt":"2013-08-26T20:14:05","slug":"twenty-facts-about-jesus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2013\/08\/twenty-facts-about-jesus.html","title":{"rendered":"Twenty Facts about Jesus"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.catholicity.co.uk\/2013\/08\/twenty-facts-about-jesus\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Doug Chaplin<\/a> has a post in which he mentions my attempt to engage mythicists. He writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Of course, in any topic under the sun, but especially those to do with Jesus, even almost indisputable facts get disputed, even down to his actual existence. The latter seems to be giving a few North American writers a little frisson of naughtiness and an illusion of intellectual courage in their frequently fundamentalist culture. Some scholars \u2013 such as\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">James McGrath<\/a>\u00a0\u2013 do their best to take mythicists seriously enough to refute them. This side of the Atlantic academia hardly notices them.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The main content of his post is a list of twenty facts about Jesus, explicitly based on E. P. Sanders\u2019 famous lists of things that we can have historical confidence about. I am reproducing Doug\u2019s list below. Would you agree with his confidence about our historical knowledge regarding all, some, or none of them, and why?<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>A man called Jesus existed who people thought was worth remembering<\/li>\n<li>He came from Nazareth<\/li>\n<li>He spoke Aramaic as his first language.<\/li>\n<li>He was washed in the Jordan by John the Immerser as part of John\u2019s restoration movement.<\/li>\n<li>He developed a ministry independent of John\u2019s (which was probably part-based around Capernaum and part-itinerant).<\/li>\n<li>His travels and planned action and teaching were confined to Israel although may have included areas whose \u201cIsraeliteness\u201d was disputed.<\/li>\n<li>He ate, drank and spoke about God with those whose community status and purity was disputed or denied.<\/li>\n<li>He called disciples and spent time teaching them.<\/li>\n<li>Among these disciples he spoke of and to a core group of twelve.<\/li>\n<li>He prioritised the fictive kin relationships of his followers over their natural family relationships<\/li>\n<li>He performed exorcisms and other perceived healings<\/li>\n<li>He was also widely seen as a teacher, and a significant portion of his teaching was seen as indirect, riddling and opaque.<\/li>\n<li>One of his key subjects was the kingdom of God \/ heaven.<\/li>\n<li>He referred to himself using the idiom \u201cson of man\u201d (although how and why he did so is disputed)<\/li>\n<li>One characteristic way he expressed authority in his teaching was by prefacing some statements with \u201cAmen.\u201d<\/li>\n<li>He engaged in controversies over the interpretation of the law<\/li>\n<li>One of his final controversies was something to do with the Temple<\/li>\n<li>He was executed by the Roman authorities as a royal pretender<\/li>\n<li>His followers after his execution claimed he had been vindicated by God as God\u2019s true king<\/li>\n<li>A new Jewish movement in his name opened up Judaism to include Gentiles and came into conflict with other Jews over Jewish identity, theology and practice.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0140144994\/ref=as_li_ss_il?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0140144994&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=jamefmcgrshom-20\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" style=\"border: 0px\" src=\"http:\/\/ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/widgets\/q?_encoding=UTF8&amp;ASIN=0140144994&amp;Format=_SL110_&amp;ID=AsinImage&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;WS=1&amp;tag=jamefmcgrshom-20\" alt=\"\" width=\"72\" height=\"110\" border=\"0\"><\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important;margin: 0px !important\" src=\"https:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=jamefmcgrshom-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0140144994\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\"><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Doug Chaplin has a post in which he mentions my attempt to engage mythicists. 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