{"id":198,"date":"2011-05-25T11:28:53","date_gmt":"2011-05-25T15:28:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/exploringourmatrix\/?p=193"},"modified":"2011-05-25T11:28:53","modified_gmt":"2011-05-25T15:28:53","slug":"creationisms-cartoon-physics-from-the-archives","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2011\/05\/creationisms-cartoon-physics-from-the-archives.html","title":{"rendered":"Creationism&#8217;s Cartoon Physics (From the Archives)"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/_mcUJ51oddRg\/TKn4mfMvKTI\/AAAAAAAAACA\/xd1o2en7nDk\/s1600\/coyote.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"240\" height=\"180\">Wile E. Coyote heads towards the cliff but doesn\u2019t see it. We\u2019ve all seen the <a href=\"http:\/\/www4.ncsu.edu\/~gsparson\/Physics\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">cartoons<\/a> \u2013 he can keep  running, until he looks down and notices there is no longer anything beneath his  feet to support him.<\/p>\n<p>This is, in essence, the situation of the  young-earth creationist movement. Every single objection that did not consist of  pointing at unanswered question \u2013 and even some of those \u2013 has been answered by  scientists, and still more evidence than we might have hoped has been  forthcoming. Young-earth creationists have complained about the paucity of  fossils of transitional forms, and we have been fortunate enough to find many  good examples. Young-earth creationists claimed that they eye could not have  come about in stages, yet we now know of organisms with all the intermediate  stages we could imagine being part of ocular evolution. They claimed that the  earth is young, but radioactive dating proved them wrong. They claimed that the  flood deposited the fossil remains, but then came the reply: ferns cannot  run.<\/p>\n<p>When science disappeared from beneath their feet \u2013 although it was  never strictly there \u2013 they kept running, assuming the Bible to still support  them. But they did not consider the consequences of taking the flood story  literally. The waters above would have blocked out the wavelengths of light  needed by plants. The human and animal inhabitants of the ark would have had to  carry all the infectious diseases that depend on them (unless they want to claim  that God replenished the world with viruses and deadly bacteria after the  flood). In addition to the difficulties and inconsistencies in their  interpretation of the story of Noah, and their ignoring of the clear evidence  that the Mesopotamians had a version of the story written down before the  Israelites wrote theirs, they also cannot take the creation stories literally.  Most of them only read the Bible in English translation, so they can ignore the  dome, ignore the fact that people do not only reason with their hearts but feel  compassion with their bowels, and for all these ancient authors knew, such  statements were literal. Historical study has shown that, far from being  something that science appeared on the scene to combat, science gave rise to the  forms of fundamentalism and attempts at literalism we now find. In earlier  times, \u201ctruth\u201d was (like \u201cfaith\u201d) about committment rather than factuality and  precision, since most people did not deal in texts and alphabets. When  Young-earth creationists are asked to provide some explanation of how the  various stories mentioned could be literally true in the modern sense, in light  of all the relevant considerations, they rely on the fact that most people  haven\u2019t thought the matter through in detail. They rely on the fact that many  religious believers <em>want<\/em> them to be right, and so if they provide but a  few plausible-sounding responses (such as boxcars on the ark) they trust that  their supporters will not examine other more troubling details.<\/p>\n<p>All the  scientific evidence that was amassed already in the 19th century changed the  minds of skeptics, like Charles Lyell and Adam Sedgwick. Far from the scientific  establishment being hostile to faith, initially most were disinclined towards  Darwin\u2019s theory because it was assumed that science would match up with  Scripture. But there is a key difference between the initial skeptics of  Darwin\u2019s theory and modern anti-evolutionists. The former saw the evidence that  was provided already in their time and changed their minds. The modern  young-earth creationists, on the other hand, continue to make ridiculous  objections and obscure the issues in spite of much more evidence that has come  to light. And the few pieces of possible evidence that they had been able to  claim provisionally \u2013 the small amount of moon dust, human footprints alongside  dinosaur tracks \u2013 did not hold up under scrutiny.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sciencemag.org\/content\/vol316\/issue5830\/images\/medium\/1427-1-med.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"264\" height=\"229\">They have gone over the  edge of the cliff, like Wile E. Coyote. Neither the Bible nor science is holding  them up. The only question now is, how long will they be able to keep going  before they finally look down? Can this cartoon go on forever? They remind me (and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sciencemag.org\/content\/316\/5830\/1427.full\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Sean Carroll<\/a>) of the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Black_Knight_(Monty_Python)\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Black Knight<\/a> from the Monty Python movie: \u201cTis but a scratch\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Many of the above  thoughts were inspired by reading Philip Kitcher\u2019s <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0195314441?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jamefmcgrshom-20&amp;link_code=as3&amp;camp=211189&amp;creative=373489&amp;creativeASIN=0195314441\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Living with Darwin<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=jamefmcgrshom-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0195314441\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\"><\/em>. I highly recommend the book. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gshotts.com\/HUMOR\/cartoonphysics.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">For more on cartoon  physics, click here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Wile E. Coyote heads towards the cliff but doesn\u2019t see it. We\u2019ve all seen the cartoons \u2013 he can keep running, until he looks down and notices there is no longer anything beneath his feet to support him. This is, in essence, the situation of the young-earth creationist movement. 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