{"id":21260,"date":"2014-02-04T11:20:36","date_gmt":"2014-02-04T16:20:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/?p=21260"},"modified":"2014-02-04T11:20:36","modified_gmt":"2014-02-04T16:20:36","slug":"ken-ham-and-bill-nye-who-is-on-the-bibles-side","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2014\/02\/ken-ham-and-bill-nye-who-is-on-the-bibles-side.html","title":{"rendered":"Ken Ham and Bill Nye: Who is on the Bible&#8217;s Side?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"http:\/\/religion.blogs.cnn.com\/2014\/02\/03\/why-im-debating-the-science-guy-about-creationism\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ken Ham says that there is genuine scientific debate about \u201cmolecules to man\u201d evolution<\/a>. The very phrase that he uses shows that his real target isn\u2019t evolutionary biology. He is trying to undermine Christianity and the Bible. He is trying on the one hand to deny that human beings are composed of molecules, something so undeniable that for Christians to reject it makes Christianity a laughing stock. And he is trying on the other hand to deny that God can turn molecules into human beings, despite that being a clear teaching of the story in Genesis.<\/p>\n<p>Bill Nye, on the other hand, does not treat the Bible as though it is supposed to answer scientific questions, but neither does he suggest that it ought to be in a manner that brings the Christian faith into disrepute. And so it is arguable that he is the one who is treating the Bible better, if the choice is between him and Ken Ham.<\/p>\n<p>As presumably everyone knows by now, <a href=\"http:\/\/t.nbcnews.com\/science\/will-evolution-debate-blow-science-guys-face-its-debatable-2D12028450\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">the \u201cHam on Nye\u201d debate<\/a> is taking place later today. I won\u2019t try to predict the outcome in terms of its impact. But one thing that is clear is that questions pertaining to evolution are settled through research in laboratories and on paleontological digs, investigating the genome and other relevant matters, not by who can score the most points in a debate.<\/p>\n<p>My biggest hope in all this is to see lots of vocal Christian supporters of <a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/sawiggins.wordpress.com\/2014\/02\/04\/ham-on-nye\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bill Nye<\/a>. There will be too many supporting Ken Ham simply because they think he represents \u201ctheir team.\u201d But that is only true if their team is \u201cwhoever wears the Christian label\u201d and not \u201cwhoever is speaking the truth in this context.\u201d Those who call themselves Christians do not always stand for truth \u2013 we should, but we do not. And non-Christians are not always opposed to the truth \u2013 especially in contexts in which there are Christians who have embraced lies and deceptions.<\/p>\n<p>Will you be <a href=\"http:\/\/www.christiantoday.com\/article\/bill.nye.vs.ken.ham.debate.live.stream.free.watch.online.creation.vs.evolution.debate.here.start.time\/35688.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">watching the debate live<\/a>?<\/p>\n<p>Here are some other things on the subject from around the web:<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/biologos.org\/blog\/ham-on-nye-what-to-watch-for?utm_source=RSS_Feed&amp;utm_medium=RSS&amp;utm_campaign=RSS_Syndication&amp;utm_reader=feedly\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Biologos has a \u201cpre-game analysis\u201d<\/a> along the lines of sports commentary.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/karl-giberson-phd\/ham-nye-debate-evolution_b_4714334.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Karl Giberson<\/a> suggests that the \u201canti-science guy\u201d automatically wins.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/questioninganswersingenesis.blogspot.com\/2014\/02\/my-unsolicited-advice-for-bill-nye-dont.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Questioning Answers in Genesis<\/a> advises Bill Nye not to teach the false dichotomy. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kentucky.com\/2014\/02\/03\/3066420\/from-creationist-to-scientist.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">David Macmillan<\/a> makes a similar point as he shares his past adherence to young-earth creationism. And <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/michael-zimmerman\/evolution-weekend-differe_b_4715080.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Michael Zimmerman<\/a> brings Evolution Weekend into the picture.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/ncse.com\/blog\/2014\/01\/glenn-beck-historical-honesty-like-oil-water-0015358\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Peter Hess<\/a> addresses Glenn Beck\u2019s analogy between the debate and Galileo.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/scienceandcreation.blogspot.com\/2014\/02\/i-fear-he-is-correct.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Jim Kidder<\/a> has <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceandcreation.blogspot.com\/2014\/02\/bill-nye-and-ken-ham-go-head-to-head.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">two post on the topic<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/evolutionblog\/2014\/02\/04\/another-round-on-probability-and-evolution\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Jason Rosenhouse<\/a> continues his discussion of probability and evolution.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2014\/02\/04\/more-than-just-genes-and-neurons-rjs\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">RJS looks at<\/a> the intersection between faith and neuroscience.<\/p>\n<p>If\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/ancientworldonline.blogspot.com\/2014\/02\/ancient-jewish-sciences-and-history-of.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">you are interested in ancient Jewish \u201cscience\u201d there is a free book you can read online<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/christianpiatt\/2014\/02\/church-sign-epic-fails-lie-lie-lie-edition\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Christian Piatt shared some church signs<\/a>, including this one, which poses the same false dichotomy that motivates charlatans like Ken Ham:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/christianpiatt\/2014\/02\/church-sign-epic-fails-lie-lie-lie-edition\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/christianpiatt\/files\/2014\/02\/big-bang-300x237.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"237\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ken Ham says that there is genuine scientific debate about \u201cmolecules to man\u201d evolution. 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