{"id":2398,"date":"2011-10-20T13:26:43","date_gmt":"2011-10-20T17:26:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/exploringourmatrix\/?p=2398"},"modified":"2011-10-20T13:26:43","modified_gmt":"2011-10-20T17:26:43","slug":"hume-giraffes-and-the-argument-for-incompetent-design","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2011\/10\/hume-giraffes-and-the-argument-for-incompetent-design.html","title":{"rendered":"Hume, Giraffes, and the Argument for Incompetent Design"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>One of the classic philosophical texts that we discuss in my freshman class \u201cFaith, Doubt and Reason\u201d is David Hume\u2019s <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B002RKT5SE\/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jamefmcgrshom-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399373&amp;creativeASIN=B002RKT5SE\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important;margin: 0px !important\" src=\"https:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=jamefmcgrshom-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B002RKT5SE&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399373\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\"><\/em>. It is noteworthy how, despite <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newscientist.com\/article\/dn21066-comets-may-be-creating-oceans-on-alien-planet.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&amp;nsref=online-news\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">changes<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/science.nasa.gov\/science-news\/science-at-nasa\/2011\/19oct_cometstorm\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">progress<\/a> in the <a href=\"http:\/\/sciencereligionnews.blogspot.com\/2011\/10\/tonight-nova-on-finding-life-beyond.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">realm<\/a> of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/jesuscreed\/2011\/10\/20\/communicating-science-rjs\/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PatheosJesusCreed+%28Blog+-+Jesus+Creed%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">natural sciences<\/a>, the same <em>sorts<\/em> of arguments \u2013 such as the teleological or design argument \u2013 continue to be used and debated.<\/p>\n<p>It is noteworthy that, in Hume\u2019s dialogue, the pious character Demea objects to the argument from design on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tcpc.org\/library\/article.cfm?library_id=1086\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">grounds of piety<\/a>. And with good reason. <a href=\"http:\/\/biologos.org\/blog\/new-limbs-from-old-fins-part-6\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">If one allows that one may argue from evidence of design to a designer, then one opens up the possibility of arguing from shortcomings in design to an incompetent designer<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/pharyngula\/2011\/10\/demonstrating_an_accident_of_e.php\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">For those living today, the laryngeal nerve provides one great example of a compelling counterargument to Intelligent Design<\/a> \u2013 particularly the route that nerve takes in the giraffe:<\/p>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Richard Dawkins Demonstrates Laryngeal Nerve of the Giraffe\" frameborder=\"0\" width=\"500\" height=\"287\" src=\"https:\/\/geo.dailymotion.com\/player.html?video=xdm5he&\" allowfullscreen allow=\"autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture; web-share\"><\/iframe>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/peterenns\/2011\/10\/al-mohler-adam-and-evolution-on-npr\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">If you are a religious believer, and you refuse to accept evolution<\/a>, then you have little choice but to blame God for the shortcomings seen in nature. You have little choice but to conclude that God wanted to leave us open to death by choking, when he made the routes for food and air converge on the same passage. And that is but one more of a very long list of examples of things that make good sense when considered the result of the slow adaptive processes of evolution, but which look ridiculous or even malevolent if considered the direct design of a divine Engineer.<\/p>\n<p>So don\u2019t be surprised if <a href=\"https:\/\/www396.ssldomain.com\/tcpc\/library\/article.cfm?library_id=1082\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">other fellow religious believers<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/michael-zimmerman\/rewriting-the-us-constitu_b_1014897.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">better informed about both science and theology<\/a>, insist that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/peterenns\/2011\/10\/al-mohler-adam-evolution-and-npr-final\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">you are demeaning rather than glorifying God through your refusal to accept evolution<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>You are making God out to be an incompetent, not an intelligent, Designer.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of the classic philosophical texts that we discuss in my freshman class \u201cFaith, Doubt and Reason\u201d is David Hume\u2019s Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion. 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