{"id":24482,"date":"2014-06-13T09:34:40","date_gmt":"2014-06-13T13:34:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/?p=24482"},"modified":"2014-06-13T09:34:40","modified_gmt":"2014-06-13T13:34:40","slug":"the-mandaean-book-of-john-and-gospel-of-john","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2014\/06\/the-mandaean-book-of-john-and-gospel-of-john.html","title":{"rendered":"Books of John"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-24483\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/exploringourmatrix\/files\/2014\/06\/The-good-sit-and-argue.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"576\" height=\"432\"><\/p>\n<p>As I\u2019ve been working on the commentary on the Mandaean Book of John this summer, I\u2019ve been struck from time to time by seemingly close parallels and points of intersection with the New Testament. For instance, here\u2019s an excerpt from the start of chapter 13, from which the quote above is taken:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It is to you that I am speaking and teaching,<\/p>\n<p>the chosen and perfect people who are living in this world.<\/p>\n<p>Don\u2019t be part of the darkness,<\/p>\n<p>but set your eyes upon the place of light.<\/p>\n<p>Learn to distinguish yourselves from the wicked and [to] the good,<\/p>\n<p>learn to distinguish yourselves from the wicked sinners of the place of darkness.<\/p>\n<p>Love and teach one another<\/p>\n<p>So that your sins and trespasses may be forgiven (to you).<\/p>\n<p>Watch, listen, and learn,<\/p>\n<p>And rise victoriously to the place of light.<\/p>\n<p>The good sit and argue, and how they argue and learn!<\/p>\n<p>The good talk and give advice to one another\u2026<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I\u2019m curious what readers of this blog think. Do the similarities to the Johannine literature in the New Testament, for instance, appear to you to be merely ones at the surface level of terminology that also appears in other traditions besides these? Or does it seem like it might indicate some historical connection of some sort? (See too other sections, such as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2013\/01\/the-mandaean-good-shepherd.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">that about the Good Shepherd<\/a>, or those <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2012\/07\/the-teaching-of-john-the-baptist-according-to-the-mandaean-book-of-john.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">about John the Baptist<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>The suggestion that the Mandaeans have some connection to the New Testament, or to the world of Jesus via John the Baptist, is not a new one. Earlier versions of such proposals were set aside because they were unduly speculative. But if many of the criticisms were on target, many were equally poorly informed about the Mandaeans and their literature. Is the time ripe for this to be reexamined?<\/p>\n<p>Let\u2019s sit and argue about this, and learn together!<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As I\u2019ve been working on the commentary on the Mandaean Book of John this summer, I\u2019ve been struck from time to time by seemingly close parallels and points of intersection with the New Testament. 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