{"id":25071,"date":"2014-09-07T10:45:15","date_gmt":"2014-09-07T14:45:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/?p=25071"},"modified":"2014-09-07T10:45:15","modified_gmt":"2014-09-07T14:45:15","slug":"jesus-human-angel-or-deity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2014\/09\/jesus-human-angel-or-deity.html","title":{"rendered":"Jesus: Human, Angel, or Deity?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>I\u2019m reading Bart Ehrman\u2019s latest book, <i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0061778184\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0061778184&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=jamefmcgrshom-20&amp;linkId=UH25PG5MTSOTFQKK\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">How Jesus Became God: The Exaltation of a Jewish Preacher from Galilee<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important;margin: 0px !important\" src=\"https:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=jamefmcgrshom-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0061778184\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\"><\/i>, and will begin blogging my thoughts about it soon. Before doing so, let me get out of the way an abundance of blog posts related to the book or\u00a0to the topic of Christology that is its focus, which have appeared in the blogosphere since <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2014\/06\/another-ehrman-round-up.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">my last round-up<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/ehrmanblog.org\/yale-shaffer-lectures-1-of-3\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ehrman shared a\u00a0video<\/a> of a lecture he gave a decade ago, on \u201cChrist\u00a0come in the flesh\u201d:<\/p>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Shaffer Lectures 1 of 3 - Christ Come in the Flesh\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/gunN_4mfmdA?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<p>Ken Schenck\u2019s multi-post blog review drew to a close, including <a href=\"http:\/\/kenschenck.blogspot.ro\/2014\/07\/ehrman-chapter-7-jesus-as-god-on-earth.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">chapter 7 \u00a0about Jesus as God on earth<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/kenschenck.blogspot.ro\/2014\/07\/ehrman-chapter-9-council-on-trinity.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">chapter 9 on\u00a0the Trinitarian creeds<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/kenschenck.blogspot.com\/2014\/07\/ehrman-epilog-after-nicaea.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">the\u00a0epilogue<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Larry Hurtado has blogged several times on this topic. See for instance <a href=\"http:\/\/larryhurtado.wordpress.com\/2014\/07\/02\/paul-the-second-temple-jewish-apostle-to-the-gentiles\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">his post on Paul\u2019s messianic Jewish Christology<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/larryhurtado.wordpress.com\/2014\/07\/21\/kyriocentric-visions-and-the-origins-of-jesus-devotion\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">his discussion of Christopher Barina Kaiser\u2019s book on visions of the Lord<\/a>. He also shared <a href=\"http:\/\/larryhurtado.wordpress.com\/2014\/08\/18\/writing-pronouncing-the-divine-name-in-second-temple-jewish-tradition\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">posts about the divine name<\/a> as it pertains to New Testament Christology, including <a href=\"http:\/\/larryhurtado.wordpress.com\/2014\/08\/22\/yhwh-in-the-septuagint\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">its rendering in the Septuagint<\/a>. See also his <a href=\"http:\/\/larryhurtado.wordpress.com\/2014\/08\/06\/textual-ambiguity-in-acts-of-the-apostles\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">article<\/a> on <a href=\"https:\/\/larryhurtado.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/07\/hurtado-textual-ambiguity-in-acts-2.pdf\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">textual ambiguity in Acts<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/8211442\/Jesus_Divine_Self-Consciousness_A_Proposal_British_New_Testament_Conference_2014_\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Crispin Fletcher-Louis\u00a0shared a paper outlining his forthcoming book about Jesus\u2019 monotheism<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/cryptotheology.wordpress.com\/2014\/08\/13\/why-does-paul-use-his-scriptures-the-way-he-does\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Matthew Malcolm shared thoughts on Paul\u2019s interpretation of Scripture<\/a> as it relates to monotheism and Christology.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/historicaljesusresearch.blogspot.com\/2014\/08\/mark-manuscripts-and-monotheism-chris.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Chris Keith mentioned<\/a>, and\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/michaeljkruger.com\/mark-manuscripts-and-monotheism-a-festschrift-for-larry-hurtado\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Michael Kruger shared<\/a> the table of contents from,\u00a0the forthcoming volume in honor of <a href=\"http:\/\/larryhurtado.wordpress.com\/2014\/08\/19\/mark-manuscripts-and-monotheism\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Larry Hurtado\u2019s work<\/a>, including on monotheism and Christology.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/freedominorthodoxy.blogspot.com\/2014\/07\/pauls-divine-christology.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Johnny Walker<\/a> reviewed <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.christilling.de\/2014\/07\/two-new-reviews-of-pauls-divine.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Chris Tilling\u2019s<\/a> book, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/3161518659\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=3161518659&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=jamefmcgrshom-20&amp;linkId=RIJKJYQAFBV6QZIL\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Paul\u2019s Divine Christology<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"blogsy-1409795356279.6692\" src=\"https:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=jamefmcgrshom-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=3161518659\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\"><\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Dale Tuggy blogged about <a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/archives\/6389\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">interaction between Buzzard and Bowman on the Shema<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/archives\/6339\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">discussed the interpretation of Philippians 2:6-11<\/a>\u00a0(also mentioned by <a href=\"http:\/\/dustinmartyr.wordpress.com\/2014\/07\/12\/dale-tuggy-on-phil-2-no-preexistence\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Dustin Smith<\/a>). Someone else\u00a0drew my attention to a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.etsjets.org\/files\/JETS-PDFs\/52\/52-4\/JETS%2052-4%20779-797%20Hellerman.pdf\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>JETS<\/em> article<\/a> and a <a href=\"http:\/\/otago.ourarchive.ac.nz\/handle\/10523\/3977\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">PhD thesis<\/a> on the interpretation of Philippians 2:6-11, which are available online.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/worshipingmind.wordpress.com\/2014\/07\/28\/is-jesus-of-the-fourth-gospel-the-i-am-of-the-old-testament-3\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Jaco\u2019s Blog\u00a0responded to me<\/a> on the understanding of \u201cI am\u201d as in some sense a divine self-designation, which represents in the Fourth Gospel the divine name that God has given to Jesus. I plan to return to that conversation, as well as the more recent one about pre-existence in Philippians 2:6-11, sometime soon. But sharing these links was long overdue.<\/p>\n<p>Of related interest, don\u2019t miss the discussion of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/euangelion\/2014\/08\/james-crossley-and-the-criteria-of-authenticity\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">criteria of authenticity<\/a> and of <a href=\"http:\/\/historicalchaos.wordpress.com\/2014\/08\/21\/inauthenticity-the-case-of-johns-gospel\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">potentially historical material in the Gospel of John<\/a> on James Crossley\u2019s blog as well as elsewhere. Also,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/kenschenck.blogspot.com\/2014\/08\/was-jesus-isfp.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ken Schenck asked whether Jesus was an ISFP<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/readingacts.wordpress.com\/2014\/09\/03\/skepticism-and-the-gospels\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Phillip Long<\/a> discussed the application of historical critical skepticism to the Gospels. In\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/readingacts.wordpress.com\/2014\/09\/04\/the-gospels-and-historical-criticism\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">repeating the claims that conservative Evangelicals have made about its presuppositions<\/a>, Long seems to me to enter into the same problematic territory that\u00a0antievolutionists do when they complain about science presupposing \u201cphilosophical naturalism.\u201d Neither history nor science requires that one subscribe to such a philosophy, but it does require that you subscribe to a particular methodology. And those methods have shown themselves to work well for answering the kinds of questions they are designed to answer.<\/p>\n<p>See also <a href=\"http:\/\/davidbcapes.com\/2014\/07\/22\/the-early-high-christology-club\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">David Capes\u2019 post on the Early High Christology Club<\/a>. I didn\u2019t know they have their own mugs! He also <a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/davidbcapes.com\/2014\/08\/04\/pauls-divine-christology\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">blogged about Chris Tilling\u2019s book<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/davidbcapes.com\/2014\/08\/28\/the-historical-jesus\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">shared<\/a> a link to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.exploregod.com\/the-historical-jesus\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">an article he wrote on extrabiblical evidence for the historical Jesus<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"blogsy-1409795356273.5608\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25298\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/exploringourmatrix\/files\/2014\/07\/ehcc-mug.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"167\" height=\"297\"><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019m reading Bart Ehrman\u2019s latest book, How Jesus Became God: The Exaltation of a Jewish Preacher from Galilee, and will begin blogging my thoughts about it soon. 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