{"id":26190,"date":"2014-09-15T09:18:36","date_gmt":"2014-09-15T13:18:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/?p=26190"},"modified":"2014-09-15T09:18:36","modified_gmt":"2014-09-15T13:18:36","slug":"how-did-ken-schenck-do","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2014\/09\/how-did-ken-schenck-do.html","title":{"rendered":"How Did Ken Schenck Do?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"http:\/\/kenschenck.blogspot.com\/2014\/09\/the-worship-of-jesus-again.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ken Schenck blogged about the worship of Jesus<\/a>, and I feel honored to be included among his list of \u201ckey players.\u201d He summarized\u00a0the views of a number of scholars, but because we are friends and fellow bloggers, he asked me how he did. Here\u2019s what he wrote to summarize my viewpoint:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>a. I believe he considers the worship of YHWH generally exclusive.<\/p>\n<p>b. But he does believe there were precedents for a softer worship of other beings associated with YHWH within a Judaism whose understanding of monotheism changed over time.<\/p>\n<p>c. He does not believe that the earliest worship of Jesus was as robust as Hurtado or Bauckham think. In particular, Jesus was never the recipient of sacrificial worship.<\/p>\n<p>d. He thus does not see the early reverence of Jesus as any kind of departure from the monotheistic precedents within Judaism.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That seems to me to be a good summary. For those who may want more detail, let me expand briefly on each point:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>I think that most if not all Jews were convinced that Yahweh alone was worthy of sacrificial worship.<\/li>\n<li>There was a lot of room in Judaism for prostration before another figure and other such\u00a0acts of \u201cveneration\u201d to be appropriate, <i>if<\/i> the figure in question was an agent of the one God, rather than a figure thought to be competing for esteem and honor with the one God.<\/li>\n<li>I\u2019ve found myself disagreeing more frequently\u00a0with Richard Bauckham than with Larry Hurtado, and on more substantive points, I think \u2013 see <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/?s=Bauckham\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">my previous posts on Bauckham\u2019s work<\/a>\u00a0and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/?s=Hurtado\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">the conversation I had with Hurtado in response to his review of my book<\/a> for more details.<\/li>\n<li>I am indeed convinced that, in responding to Jesus as they did, none of the earliest Christians thought they were in any way being unfaithful to Jewish monotheism.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Thanks for the accurate summary, Ken, but even more so for <a href=\"http:\/\/kenschenck.blogspot.com\/2014\/09\/the-worship-of-jesus-again.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">including me on the list<\/a> in the first place!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/025203418X\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=025203418X&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=jamefmcgrshom-20&amp;linkId=MDA3IY3MLRVUCQGS\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/widgets\/q?_encoding=UTF8&amp;ASIN=025203418X&amp;Format=_SL250_&amp;ID=AsinImage&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;WS=1&amp;tag=jamefmcgrshom-20\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\"><\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important;margin: 0px !important\" src=\"https:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=jamefmcgrshom-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=025203418X\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\"><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ken Schenck blogged about the worship of Jesus, and I feel honored to be included among his list of \u201ckey players.\u201d He summarized\u00a0the views of a number of scholars, but because we are friends and fellow bloggers, he asked me how he did. Here\u2019s what he wrote to summarize my viewpoint: a. 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