{"id":26593,"date":"2015-03-29T11:32:43","date_gmt":"2015-03-29T15:32:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/exploringourmatrix\/?p=26593"},"modified":"2015-03-29T11:32:43","modified_gmt":"2015-03-29T15:32:43","slug":"john-the-baptists-bones-serapion-and-the-mandaeans","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2015\/03\/john-the-baptists-bones-serapion-and-the-mandaeans.html","title":{"rendered":"John the Baptist&#8217;s Bones, Serapion, and the Mandaeans"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>As a result of the episode of the CNN series Finding Jesus which focused on John the Baptist, significant attention is being paid to <a href=\"http:\/\/dienekes.blogspot.com\/2015\/03\/sveti-ivan-relics-middle-eastern-mid.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">bones which are supposedly his<\/a>, and\u00a0genetic testing of which has suggested they belong to a first-century Middle Eastern man.<\/p>\n<p>See \u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.apocryphicity.ca\/2014\/10\/10\/more-christian-apocrypha-updates-13-life-of-john-the-baptist-by-serapion\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Tony Burke\u2019s earlier post about Serapion\u2019s \u201cLife of John the Baptist\u201d<\/a>\u00a0and now also <a href=\"http:\/\/www.apocryphicity.ca\/2015\/03\/13\/finding-jesus-episode-2-inventing-john-the-baptist\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">his follow-up post about the CNN episode<\/a>. I\u2019m not sure what precise tests are supposed to have been done or how they are supposed to have determined not just the ancestry but the time from which the individual whose bones they are came. But Tony\u2019s more recent post points out some issues with assuming that the bones in an unlabeled box are to be connected with the box which actually mentions John the Baptist.<\/p>\n<p>The focus in my own work is\u00a0on\u00a0literature about John the Baptist, especially that of the Mandaeans. We see lots of similarities between Jewish, Christian, and Muslim depictions of the same characters. And when they are different, we often recognize polemical reasons for the changes. And so a question has come up that relates these traditions to my own work on the Mandaean Book of John.\u00a0Why is the Mandaean portrait of John the Baptist so different from what we find\u00a0in Christian and Islamic\u00a0literature? There are instances when the Mandaean tradition may be rewriting\u00a0the Gospel story about John and Jesus. But there are others which seem to be differences that\u00a0show no sign of being polemically or theologically motivated. They simply look like separate traditions. The question is how to best account for this \u2013 and one possible answer is that the Mandaeans preserved traditions which arose independently from, and developed separately\u00a0from, those which their Christian and Muslim neighbors developed and preserved.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As a result of the episode of the CNN series Finding Jesus which focused on John the Baptist, significant attention is being paid to bones which are supposedly his, and\u00a0genetic testing of which has suggested they belong to a first-century Middle Eastern man. 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