{"id":27611,"date":"2014-12-15T18:39:27","date_gmt":"2014-12-15T23:39:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/exploringourmatrix\/?p=27611"},"modified":"2014-12-15T18:39:27","modified_gmt":"2014-12-15T23:39:27","slug":"mythicism-as-pseudoscholarship-on-wikipedia","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2014\/12\/mythicism-as-pseudoscholarship-on-wikipedia.html","title":{"rendered":"Mythicism as Pseudoscholarship on Wikipedia"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>David Fitzgerald posted this on Facebook:<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-27612 \" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/exploringourmatrix\/files\/2014\/12\/Mythicism-as-pseudoscholarship-on-Wikipedia.png\" alt=\"Mythicism as pseudoscholarship on Wikipedia\" width=\"473\" height=\"318\"><\/p>\n<p>If a \u201cwar is brewing,\u201d are you involved in Wikipedia enough, or invested enough in the subject, to get involved?<\/p>\n<p>It was interesting to see the comments on Fitzgerald\u2019s post.\u00a0Some mythicists suggested that Richard Carrier having a peer-reviewed book published somehow proves that mythicism does not deserve this label. One can certainly make that case \u2013 if one is willing to grant that Intelligent Design, with its qualified supporters in the form of Michael Behe and others like him, is not pseudoscience. I wonder how many mythicists are willing to do that? If they are, I will admire their consistency.<\/p>\n<p>I also appreciated this response to a mythicist\u2019s comment in the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Talk:Christ_myth_theory\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Talk: Christ myth theory section on Wikipedia<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Wikipedia does not\u00a0<a class=\"mw-redirect decorated-link\" style=\"color: #0b0080\" title=\"Wikipedia:GEVAL\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wikipedia:GEVAL\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">give equal validity<\/a>\u00a0to positions that receive less academic support, which is determined by\u00a0<a class=\"mw-redirect decorated-link\" style=\"color: #0b0080\" title=\"Wikipedia:DUE\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wikipedia:DUE\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">due weight <\/a>from sources, rather than choosing one source and rejecting others. In other words, the conclusions of the majority trump\u00a0<a class=\"mw-redirect decorated-link\" style=\"color: #0b0080\" title=\"Wikipedia:FRINGE\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wikipedia:FRINGE\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">the claims of the minority<\/a>. This is parallel to our article on <a style=\"color: #0b0080\" title=\"Evolution\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Evolution\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Evolution<\/a>: the majority in the field hold a particular position which we repeat, while we shuffle off the <a class=\"mw-redirect decorated-link\" style=\"color: #0b0080\" title=\"Young Earth Creationism\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Young_Earth_Creationism\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201calternative\u201d <\/a>to an article that\u2019s mostly criticism. To date, Carrier\u2019s work is the only peer-reviewed Mythicist work from an academic publisher, while there are plenty that (regardless of whether\u00a0<a class=\"mw-redirect decorated-link\" style=\"color: #0b0080\" title=\"Wikipedia:IDLI\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wikipedia:IDLI\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">individual editors disagree<\/a>\u00a0or\u00a0<a class=\"mw-redirect decorated-link\" style=\"color: #0b0080\" title=\"Wikipedia:NOR\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wikipedia:NOR\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">want to argue against it<\/a>) take a Historicist position.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>David Fitzgerald posted this on Facebook: If a \u201cwar is brewing,\u201d are you involved in Wikipedia enough, or invested enough in the subject, to get involved? 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