{"id":27861,"date":"2014-12-30T14:51:22","date_gmt":"2014-12-30T19:51:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/exploringourmatrix\/?p=27861"},"modified":"2014-12-30T14:51:22","modified_gmt":"2014-12-30T19:51:22","slug":"when-bart-ehrman-and-mike-bird-agree","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2014\/12\/when-bart-ehrman-and-mike-bird-agree.html","title":{"rendered":"When Bart Ehrman and Mike Bird Agree"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Two items related to the existence of a historical Jesus came to my attention today. One is an interview with Bart Ehrman:<\/p>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Did Jesus Exist? Interview by Guy Raz\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/AYbNeVlr0gw?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<p>The other is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.onlineopinion.com.au\/view.asp?article=16974\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">an article by Mike Bird, with the title, \u201cYes, Jesus existed \u2026 but relax, you can still be an atheist if you want to.\u201d<\/a>\u00a0Here\u2019s a sample:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000\">The Jesus mythicists are a group of enthusiastic atheists who through websites and self-published books try to prove the equivalent of a flat earth. I serve on the editorial board for the Journal for the Study of the Historical Jesus, where we have an editorial team of people from all faiths and none, celebrated experts in their fields; and I can tell you that the Jesus mythicist nonsense would never get a foot in the door of a peer-reviewed journal committed to the academic study of the historical Jesus.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And another:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000\">Mr. Lataster\u2019s article clearly emerges out of his self-published book,\u00a0<\/span><i style=\"color: #000000\">There Was No Jesus, There Is No God<\/i><span style=\"color: #000000\">\u00a0\u2013 a title that unveils his purposes. Lataster is not writing an independent and unbiased account of Christian origins; he seems to be writing an apologetic tract for his tribe, providing solace to his atheist friends who are concerned that this Jesus thing might be a bit too real for their comfort. To them I say, relax. There are substantial reasons why one might choose to reject Christian belief; but the question of whether Jesus existed is not one of them. Even if there is no God, there was still an historical Jesus.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.onlineopinion.com.au\/view.asp?article=16974&amp;page=0\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Click through to read the rest<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-21119\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/exploringourmatrix\/files\/2014\/01\/Evangelizing-Ehrman.jpg\" alt=\"Evangelizing Ehrman\" width=\"397\" height=\"520\"><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Two items related to the existence of a historical Jesus came to my attention today. One is an interview with Bart Ehrman: The other is an article by Mike Bird, with the title, \u201cYes, Jesus existed \u2026 but relax, you can still be an atheist if you want to.\u201d\u00a0Here\u2019s a sample: The Jesus mythicists are [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":136,"featured_media":23070,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[64],"tags":[1024,4652,7350,7853,9961],"class_list":["post-27861","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-mythicism","tag-bart-ehrman","tag-historical-jesus","tag-michael-bird","tag-mythicism","tag-raphael-lataster"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>When Bart Ehrman and Mike Bird Agree<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Two items related to the existence of a historical Jesus came to my attention today. 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