{"id":3413,"date":"2008-10-07T14:47:00","date_gmt":"2008-10-07T14:47:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2008\/10\/keith-ward-big-questions-in-science-and-religion-1-how-did-the-universe-begin\/"},"modified":"2008-10-07T14:47:00","modified_gmt":"2008-10-07T14:47:00","slug":"keith-ward-big-questions-in-science-and-religion-1-how-did-the-universe-begin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2008\/10\/keith-ward-big-questions-in-science-and-religion-1-how-did-the-universe-begin.html","title":{"rendered":"Keith Ward, Big Questions in Science and Religion 1: How Did The Universe Begin?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>This is the first post in a series blogging my way through Keith Ward\u2019s most recent book, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1599471353?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jamefmcgrshom-20&amp;link_code=as3&amp;camp=211189&amp;creative=373489&amp;creativeASIN=1599471353\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Big Questions in Science and Religion<\/a><\/em>. The first chapter is entitled \u201cHow Did The Universe Begin? (Is There An Ultimate Explanation For The Universe?)\u201d Before I even managed to post on this topic, <a href=\"http:\/\/exploringourmatrix.blogspot.com\/2008\/10\/keith-ward-big-questions-in-science-and.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">it was drawn to my attention<\/a> that the question as posed seems to slant the issue in a particular way.<\/p>\n<div>\n<div><a href=\"https:\/\/www.astronomybuff.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2007\/02\/hubble-abell.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.astronomybuff.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2007\/02\/hubble-abell.jpg\" border=\"0\"><\/a>To be fair, Ward\u2019s understanding of divine creation, in keeping with Aquinas and other famous Christian theologians, is not focused on God giving a temporal start to the universe, but on the dependence of the universe on God for its existence, not merely for its beginning (if it had one). But given that he adds this qualification, it might have been appropriate to drop the \u201chow\u201d, since even if the evidence for the \u201cBig Bang\u201d suggests that our visible universe was once much hotter and denser, there is no way to know whether this holds true of a wider universe, or of other universes, that lie beyond the range of what we can ever hope to see or detect. So the question of <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceandreligiontoday.blogspot.com\/2008\/10\/did-our-universe-have-beginning.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">whether the universe had a beginning<\/a>, and if so in what sense, remains an unresolved issue in cosmology.<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div>Ward takes an interesting approach, one that is particularly appropriate when writing for those familiar with and interested in the Biblical texts relevant to creation. He begins with the Babylonian epic, which begins with a \u201cgreat deep\u201d from which gods themselves arise. Then he brings in the Genesis story, assuming without adequate justification that the deep, which also features in the Biblical account, is the creation of God, whereas there is a longstanding Jewish tradition of regarding it as simply having always been there, an idea important nowadays in Process Theology.<\/div>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/ego.dunedan.com\/photos\/hubble.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><\/a> <\/div>\n<div><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pleiade.org\/images\/hubble-m45.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pleiade.org\/images\/hubble-m45.jpg\" border=\"0\"><\/a>Ward, for those unfamiliar with his writings, is a Christian of a Liberal\/Progressive sort, who is open to being critical of his own tradition as well as embracing insights from others. And so it is not surprising that he proceeds to consider \u201cThree Problems with the Biblical Story\u201d, including the most obvious, which is \u201cWhere did God come from?\u201d His answer is that God, as traditionally understood by theologians, is more like the \u201cformless deep\u201d of the Babylonian epic, from which everything else arises, than many might think. He quotes Boethius\u2019 description of God as the \u201cinfinite ocean of being\u201d and adds his own reference to God as \u201ca sort of limitless reservoir of all possibilities\u201d (p.12).<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div><a href=\"https:\/\/esamultimedia.esa.int\/images\/spcs\/hubble\/hubble20040813a.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/esamultimedia.esa.int\/images\/spcs\/hubble\/hubble20040813a.jpg\" border=\"0\"><\/a>Ward\u2019s discussion of the possibility that what ultimately exists and \u201csimply is\u201d is <em>consciousness<\/em> leads quite naturally to a discussion of Indian ideas of origins. Indian philosophy explored the same basic subject as Descartes, but rather than it leading to a radical individualism and skeptical empiricism as in the Western tradition, it led to the conclusion that since the existence of consciousness cannot be denied without self contradiction, <em>pure consciousness<\/em> is what is really real and the ground of all other existing things.<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><a href=\"https:\/\/api.ning.com\/files\/OEkmvxfLdRMFa4nGK2ZRMRs2PDbbgDQ234JhPQgxxNg_\/hubble_image.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/api.ning.com\/files\/OEkmvxfLdRMFa4nGK2ZRMRs2PDbbgDQ234JhPQgxxNg_\/hubble_image.jpg\" border=\"0\"><\/a>The question of whether there is an ultimate spiritual reality is the heart of the matter, and religious traditions differ on whether this is a disembodied, purely spiritual reality that preceeds material existence, or rather a spiritual aspect<em> of<\/em> material existence. In either case, it would seem that there is no way to demonstrate that reality is one way or the other to the satisfaction of all. Those who experience reality as having a spiritual aspect will find explanations of origins in such terms plausible; those who do not, will not. But certainly the discussion of necessity as a philosophical concept is interesting if ultimately frustrating, and the question of why anything exists at all remains an intellectual puzzle whether one is asking it about the universe, pure consciousness, or a personal notion of God.<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div><a href=\"https:\/\/www.astronomybuff.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2007\/02\/hubble-abell.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.astronomybuff.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2007\/02\/hubble-abell.jpg\" border=\"0\"><\/a>We consider these questions in the middle of cosmic history, without direct access to either the beginning or the end of existence, and were we in a position to see the beginning or the end, Ward suggests, it might be rather obvious one way or the other whether there is anything corresponding to creation and purpose in the universe. \u201cBut we, living in the middle of this cosmic drama, cannot see either its ultimate origin or its end\u201d (p.27).<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Ward sees it as a key component of a religious outlook that spirit can exist without embodiment. Process theologians would disagree, and would argue that the universe may be thought of as God\u2019s body, and that God was never <em>bodiless<\/em>.<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/badastronomy\/files\/2008\/10\/noao_m86_ngc4438.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/badastronomy\/files\/2008\/10\/noao_m86_ngc4438.jpg\" border=\"0\"><\/a>My own inclination is to respond to our current understanding by suggesting that, just as the \u201cspirit\u201d or \u201csoul\u201d of human beings seems to be an emergent aspect of our organism\u2019s complexity, what is meant by \u201cspirit\u201d and \u201cGod\u201d on a universal scale may likewise be something \u201cemergent\u201d or at least a reality that is not a separate substance alongside the universe, but the way it all relates together. But I shall say more about this when I get to Ward\u2019s chapter on the soul. For now, I will simply observe that, from a reductionist standpoint, <em>you<\/em> are not reading my <em>words<\/em> on this screen. There are no words on the screen, only flickering pixels. Your mind interprets them as words. But your mind is likewise something which, no matter how minutely you were to be dissected, no scientist could pinpoint. Our sense of self emerges from the reality of our being in all its complexity. If that is how we now understand the <em>human<\/em> spirit, should we not think of <em>Spirit<\/em> in a similar way? This may well seem inadequate to future generations who know and understand far more than we do. But it seems an appropriate expression in terms of our current understanding of the universe and of ourselves.<\/div>\n<p align=\"center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/imgsrc.hubblesite.org\/hu\/db\/2008\/34\/images\/a\/formats\/web.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/imgsrc.hubblesite.org\/hu\/db\/2008\/34\/images\/a\/formats\/web.jpg\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/7622297540113836091-2828868997202600025?l=exploringourmatrix.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is the first post in a series blogging my way through Keith Ward\u2019s most recent book, The Big Questions in Science and Religion. The first chapter is entitled \u201cHow Did The Universe Begin? 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