{"id":34369,"date":"2016-04-20T05:43:57","date_gmt":"2016-04-20T09:43:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/?p=34369"},"modified":"2016-04-20T05:43:57","modified_gmt":"2016-04-20T09:43:57","slug":"mythicism-all-around","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2016\/04\/mythicism-all-around.html","title":{"rendered":"Mythicism All Around?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B017YB4D82\/ref=as_li_ss_il?ie=UTF8&amp;btkr=1&amp;linkCode=li2&amp;tag=jamefmcgrshom-20&amp;linkId=cccd484f373780ed42c1bab5e5186c4b\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" src=\"\/\/ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/widgets\/q?_encoding=UTF8&amp;ASIN=B017YB4D82&amp;Format=_SL160_&amp;ID=AsinImage&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;WS=1&amp;tag=jamefmcgrshom-20\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\"><\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important;margin: 0px !important\" src=\"https:\/\/\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=jamefmcgrshom-20&amp;l=li2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B017YB4D82\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\">If you move in the circles of organized atheism, it is much as if you move in the circles of conservative Christianity: you can get the impression that certain ideas are <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2015\/09\/how-widespread-is-mythicism.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">getting lots of attention<\/a>, when they are only being given attention by your group which organizes for precisely that to happen.<\/p>\n<p>Just like creationists, <a href=\"http:\/\/freethoughtblogs.com\/carrier\/archives\/10034\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Richard Carrier<\/a> (in a <a href=\"http:\/\/freethoughtblogs.com\/carrier\/archives\/10034\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">piece<\/a> complaining about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2016\/03\/tim-hendrix-vs-raphael-lataster-on-richard-carrier.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">my blog post about Raphael Lataster\u2019s disappointing article<\/a>) writes \u201cI know professors who won\u2019t publicly admit they think we have a point, out of\u00a0fear for their career.\u201d That is, as you know, just what creationists say about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2016\/01\/the-real-difference-between-creationism-and-mythicism.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">dissent from Darwin in the academy<\/a>.\u00a0He also pretends that my post is a \u201cdefense of historicity\u201d rather than\u00a0a complaint about Lataster writing the way Carrier does, to the detriment of his credibility and probably ultimately his career.<\/p>\n<p>See <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/anxiousbench\/2016\/04\/the-myth-of-the-mythical-jesus\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Philip Jenkins\u2019 recent post<\/a> for a sense of how mythicism looks to a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.personal.psu.edu\/faculty\/j\/p\/jpj1\/books.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">professional historian<\/a> who actually works in academia.<\/p>\n<p>Of related interest,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com\/2016\/04\/robert-m-price-on-historicity-of-jesus.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">John Loftus shared<\/a> this video of Robert Price (who will be <a href=\"https:\/\/whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com\/2016\/04\/18\/the-mythicist-conference-in-milwaukee\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">debating Bart Ehrman in Milwaukee<\/a>):<\/p>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Atheist Debates - Interview: Dr. Robert M. Price\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/3NLXTGesqxA?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If you move in the circles of organized atheism, it is much as if you move in the circles of conservative Christianity: you can get the impression that certain ideas are getting lots of attention, when they are only being given attention by your group which organizes for precisely that to happen. 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