{"id":349,"date":"2011-02-16T23:39:00","date_gmt":"2011-02-16T23:39:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2011\/02\/the-end-of-the-mythicist-age\/"},"modified":"2011-02-16T23:39:00","modified_gmt":"2011-02-16T23:39:00","slug":"the-end-of-the-mythicist-age","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2011\/02\/the-end-of-the-mythicist-age.html","title":{"rendered":"The End of the (Mythicist) Age"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>In an attempt to make mythicism seem more plausible, some mythicists attempt to push the time in which the (purely celestial\/mythical) activity of Jesus is set back in time, away from the time of Paul, so that the latter would not be in a position to know whether Jesus was a real, historical human being or not.<\/p>\n<div style=\"border-bottom: medium none;border-left: medium none;border-right: medium none;border-top: medium none\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thespringharvest.com\/sitebuildercontent\/sitebuilderpictures\/falsejesuschrist.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" height=\"200\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thespringharvest.com\/sitebuildercontent\/sitebuilderpictures\/falsejesuschrist.jpg\" width=\"140\"><\/a>Like most everything about mythicism, this is not strictly speaking impossible \u2013 but neither is it probable, nor is it persuasive.<\/div>\n<div style=\"border-bottom: medium none;border-left: medium none;border-right: medium none;border-top: medium none\"><\/div>\n<p>In such contexts I often mention Paul\u2019s references to \u201cthe Lord\u2019s brother\u201d and Jesus\u2019 being \u201cof David according to the flesh.\u201d But there is much more to the picture than that, and it is the overall framework of Paul\u2019s Christian faith that mythicism fails to do justice to, and not only individual details.<\/p>\n<div style=\"border-bottom: medium none;border-left: medium none;border-right: medium none;border-top: medium none\">Paul\u2019s theology is focused on the arrival of the end of the <a href=\"http:\/\/bible.cc\/galatians\/1-4.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">age<\/a>. Resurrection was not something that just happened to Jesus in Paul\u2019s system. Paul shared the widespread Jewish belief that resurrection was the form that the afterlife would take: God would raise the dead and judge them as part of the process of bringing in his kingdom. To make sense of the oddity of believing that Jesus had been raised independently of the rest of humankind, Paul (like many\u00a0other early Christians) posited a brief period during which the good news would be proclaimed, and then the end would come. Paul assumed, in 1 Thessalonians, that he would still be alive when this happened.<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"border-bottom: medium none;border-left: medium none;border-right: medium none;border-top: medium none\">Are we really to take seriously that Jesus was\u00a0supposed to have lived in some remote or uncertain time, and that this belief (of which we have no earlier trace whatsoever) suddenly persuaded Paul and others around the middle of the first century that the end of all things was\u00a0then near? Or even more implausibly, shall we follow the lead of those mythicists who propose that, even though resurrection was a Jewish belief about something that happened to human beings, originally the story of Jesus was not focused on a human person at all, but on a purely celestial savior?<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"border-bottom: medium none;border-left: medium none;border-right: medium none;border-top: medium none\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.colschildrenstheatre.org\/reviews\/images\/2006-7\/JCS1-Jesus_Pilate.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" height=\"213\" src=\"https:\/\/www.colschildrenstheatre.org\/reviews\/images\/2006-7\/JCS1-Jesus_Pilate.jpg\" width=\"320\"><\/a>Once again, nothing is impossible. But fortunately most people not engaged in online debates seem to agree that an opinion not\u00a0having been\u00a0shown to be <em>impossible <\/em>does not mean that one has good reason to accept that it is true. <\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"border-bottom: medium none;border-left: medium none;border-right: medium none;border-top: medium none\">Hopefully this brief post provides a broader picture of why the evidence we have from Paul\u2019s letters does not seem to scholars to fit with the claims that some mythicists make. Often it seems to me that the reason mythicism seems plausible to some people is that they understand the meaning of terms like \u201cresurrection\u201d and \u201cMessiah,\u201d the nature of Jesus, and the appropriate way to interpret the Bible (as allegory) not in the way scholars and historians do, but (perhaps somewhat ironically) in the manner advocated in certain strands of the Christian faith. Mythicism is at its heart a rejection of the existence of the \u201cChrist of faith.\u201d But historians have long been investigating, and finding evidence for, a \u201cJesus of history\u201d who looks very different from the Christ that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/timothy-beal\/in-the-beginnings-an-acci_b_822703.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">fundamentalist and mythicist apologists go back and forth about<\/a>, and either accept or deny in his entirety.<\/div>\n<div style=\"border-bottom: medium none;border-left: medium none;border-right: medium none;border-top: medium none\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/7622297540113836091-1421130948491631279?l=exploringourmatrix.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In an attempt to make mythicism seem more plausible, some mythicists attempt to push the time in which the (purely celestial\/mythical) activity of Jesus is set back in time, away from the time of Paul, so that the latter would not be in a position to know whether Jesus was a real, historical human being [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":136,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-349","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>The End of the (Mythicist) Age<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"In an attempt to make mythicism seem more plausible, some mythicists attempt to push the time in which the (purely celestial\/mythical) activity of Jesus\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2011\/02\/the-end-of-the-mythicist-age.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"The End of the (Mythicist) Age\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"In an attempt to make mythicism seem more plausible, some mythicists attempt to push the time in which the (purely celestial\/mythical) activity of Jesus\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2011\/02\/the-end-of-the-mythicist-age.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Religion Prof: The Blog of James F. 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