{"id":35354,"date":"2019-02-22T06:03:17","date_gmt":"2019-02-22T11:03:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/?p=35354"},"modified":"2019-02-19T11:52:40","modified_gmt":"2019-02-19T16:52:40","slug":"design-deism-and-disenchantment","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2019\/02\/design-deism-and-disenchantment.html","title":{"rendered":"Design, Deism, and Disenchantment"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"https:\/\/ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/ir?t=jamefmcgrshom-20&amp;language=en_US&amp;l=li3&amp;o=1&amp;a=B07GCSSY4L\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\">The topic of <a href=\"http:\/\/experimentaltheology.blogspot.com\/2019\/02\/disenchantment-death-and-hope.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">disenchantment<\/a> is directly entwined with pretty much any question that we might ask related to religion in the present day. I had been gathering links on the topic for quite some time, but was prompted to return to the topic and finish the post not only by the treatment of the subject in Robert Geraci\u2019s recent book <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/2tjHMOZ\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Temples of Modernity: Nationalism, Hinduism, and Transhumanism in South Indian Science<\/em><\/a>, but also by <a href=\"https:\/\/relcfp.tumblr.com\/post\/182623302427\/march-1-2019-cfp-for-publication-or-other\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">a call for papers for a special issue of <em>Chiasma\u00a0<\/em>focused on the subject<\/a>. I\u2019ve recorded a podcast with Robert about his book and his ongoing work in India (recorded while he is currently there in Bangalore) which will be released in the not too distant future.<\/p>\n<p>As I have already indicated, there has is quite a bit to talk about related to enchantment and disenchantment. <a href=\"http:\/\/experimentaltheology.blogspot.com\/2016\/07\/edging-toward-enchantment-more-than.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Richard Beck discussed the topic<\/a> a while back, explaining how the design argument tricks those who embrace it into also going along with a deist line of reasoning. He writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/\/\/ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/widgets\/q?_encoding=UTF8&amp;ASIN=B07GCSSY4L&amp;Format=_SL250_&amp;ID=AsinImage&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;WS=1&amp;tag=jamefmcgrshom-20&amp;language=en_US\" border=\"0\">The Watchmaker argument, by reducing Creation to a mechanism, tricks you into adopting a deistic view of the cosmos. And once you\u2019ve adopted deism\u2013a distant God who stepped away from creation and doesn\u2019t intervene\u2013your disenchantment radically deepens\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s the question I asked the biology majors:<\/p>\n<p>Is cancer beautiful?<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s a hard question. Maybe at the level of\u00a0<i>pure mechanism<\/i>\u00a0you can find beauty in how cancer cells replicate. At the cellular and molecular level the\u00a0<i>intricacy of the design<\/i>\u00a0is beautiful.<\/p>\n<p>Cancer is the Watch.<\/p>\n<p>But at an existential level we recoil at the notion that cancer is beautiful. We\u2019ve seen cancer eat away at and take the lives of our loved ones. We stand at the graveside of a child who has died of leukemia and say, \u201cMaybe the Watch is beautiful. But I hate the Watch.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The problem with the Watchmaker argument, I told the biology majors, is that it doesn\u2019t account for our deep, deep dissatisfaction with the Watch. The Watch may be intricately designed, and when we look at the Grand Canyon or at the stars we might call these parts of the Watch beautiful. But there also parts of the Watch that we experience as ugly, horrible and tragic. Design doesn\u2019t always produce wonder. Cancer isn\u2019t beautiful.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/internetmonk.com\/archive\/85467\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">Chaplain Mike explored the shrinking place of God in our time<\/a>. Also on this topic:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"j4ETsfIvWU\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/3quarksdaily.com\/3quarksdaily\/2019\/01\/why-do-we-think-we-are-disenchanted.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Why Do We Think We Are Disenchanted?<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cWhy Do We Think We Are Disenchanted?\u201d \u2014 3 Quarks Daily\" src=\"https:\/\/3quarksdaily.com\/3quarksdaily\/2019\/01\/why-do-we-think-we-are-disenchanted.html\/embed#?secret=8QtkcD0rLZ#?secret=j4ETsfIvWU\" data-secret=\"j4ETsfIvWU\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"vuld3gT7vU\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/pursiful.com\/2016\/08\/31\/scooby-doo-is-fun-to-watch-but-a-lousy-source-for-a-worldview\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Scooby Doo is Fun TV but a Lousy\u00a0Worldview<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cScooby Doo is Fun TV but a Lousy\u00a0Worldview\u201d \u2014 Darrell J. Pursiful\" src=\"https:\/\/pursiful.com\/2016\/08\/31\/scooby-doo-is-fun-to-watch-but-a-lousy-source-for-a-worldview\/embed\/#?secret=5HoEhPlnOU#?secret=vuld3gT7vU\" data-secret=\"vuld3gT7vU\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"F7470qzWZT\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2016\/08\/31\/scooby-doo-how-wrong-are-you\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Scooby Doo, How Wrong are You?<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cScooby Doo, How Wrong are You?\u201d \u2014 Jesus Creed\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2016\/08\/31\/scooby-doo-how-wrong-are-you\/embed\/#?secret=bh1xwZSYxH#?secret=F7470qzWZT\" data-secret=\"F7470qzWZT\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.commonwealmagazine.org\/can-we-still-believe-miracles\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Can we still believe in miracles?<\/a><\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com\/2016\/08\/27\/why-the-nones-leave-religion-us-and-uk-getting-less-religious\/<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"B1d5Tf3lpS\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2018\/04\/05\/intelligent-design-revisited-rjs\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Intelligent Design Revisited (RJS)<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cIntelligent Design Revisited (RJS)\u201d \u2014 Jesus Creed\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2018\/04\/05\/intelligent-design-revisited-rjs\/embed\/#?secret=dNYzHvBRqX#?secret=B1d5Tf3lpS\" data-secret=\"B1d5Tf3lpS\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com\/2019\/02\/13\/scientist-scrutinizes-just-two-examples-in-behes-new-book-finds-them-deeply-misleading\/<\/p>\n<p>The BioLogos website had a series of guest posts on creating information naturally, related to <a href=\"https:\/\/biologos.org\/blogs\/guest\/creating-information-naturally-part-1-snowflakes-chess-and-dna\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">chess and DNA<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/biologos.org\/blogs\/guest\/creating-information-naturally-part-2-chance\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">chance<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/biologos.org\/blogs\/guest\/creating-information-naturally-part-3-evolutionary-adaptation-and-co-option\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">evolutionary adaptation<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"9VpwIPARMp\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/thebookofworks.com\/2018\/05\/09\/intrinsic-biochemical-intelligence\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Intrinsic Biochemical Intelligence<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cIntrinsic Biochemical Intelligence\u201d \u2014 The Book of Works\" src=\"https:\/\/thebookofworks.com\/2018\/05\/09\/intrinsic-biochemical-intelligence\/embed\/#?secret=bNYXOjYuHN#?secret=9VpwIPARMp\" data-secret=\"9VpwIPARMp\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"kERdDf2baW\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/3quarksdaily.com\/3quarksdaily\/2019\/02\/the-enlightened-luddite.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Enlightened Luddite<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cThe Enlightened Luddite\u201d \u2014 3 Quarks Daily\" src=\"https:\/\/3quarksdaily.com\/3quarksdaily\/2019\/02\/the-enlightened-luddite.html\/embed#?secret=Anro1fxSGt#?secret=kERdDf2baW\" data-secret=\"kERdDf2baW\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"i1SQNbavID\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/2016\/07\/rational-faith-more-working-hypothesis-than-logical-proof.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Rational Faith: More working hypothesis than logical proof<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cRational Faith: More working hypothesis than logical proof\u201d \u2014 Unequally Yoked\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/2016\/07\/rational-faith-more-working-hypothesis-than-logical-proof.html\/embed#?secret=uPqLCjMA5J#?secret=i1SQNbavID\" data-secret=\"i1SQNbavID\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Finally, let me note a possible connection to the subject of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dissentmagazine.org\/article\/is-anti-intellectualism-ever-good-for-democracy\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">anti-intellectualism<\/a>. It could be argued that the world has become a disenchanted place largely for a privileged elite, which doesn\u2019t make that perspective wrong, but does nonetheless identify a problem with where it is found, how it is communicated, and who is disenfranchised in the process.<\/p>\n<p>And here for your convenience once again is that call for papers I mentioned at the beginning of this post.<\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/relcfp.tumblr.com\/post\/182623302427\/march-1-2019-cfp-for-publication-or-other<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The topic of disenchantment is directly entwined with pretty much any question that we might ask related to religion in the present day. 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