{"id":3709,"date":"2008-05-13T09:51:00","date_gmt":"2008-05-13T09:51:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2008\/05\/science-and-religion-around-the-blogosphere-2\/"},"modified":"2008-05-13T09:51:00","modified_gmt":"2008-05-13T09:51:00","slug":"science-and-religion-around-the-blogosphere-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2008\/05\/science-and-religion-around-the-blogosphere-2.html","title":{"rendered":"Science and Religion Around the Blogosphere"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>(Or \u201cEinstein the Atheist Wraps Anti-Evolutionists in Poison Ivy Flagella\u201d)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/westendpediatrics.com\/whatsnew\/images\/poison-ivy.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/westendpediatrics.com\/whatsnew\/images\/poison-ivy.jpg\" border=\"0\"><\/a>Those who claim evolution makes no predictions need to go <a href=\"http:\/\/www.blog.beyondthefirmament.com\/2008\/05\/12\/everyday-evolution\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">roll around in poison ivy<\/a>. For some, experiential learning works best.<\/p>\n<p>Mark Perrakh talks about <a href=\"http:\/\/pandasthumb.org\/archives\/2008\/05\/flagella-real-a.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">what bacterial flagella <i>really<\/i> look like<\/a>. Doppelganger asks if <a href=\"http:\/\/all-too-common-dissent.blogspot.com\/2008\/05\/if-it-is-enough-to-convict-haeckel-it.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">what is good for the Haeckel is also good for the Dembski<\/a>. <a href=\"http:\/\/aigbusted.blogspot.com\/2008\/05\/this-i-believe.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">AIG Busted<\/a> points to an NPR essay entitled <a href=\"http:\/\/www.npr.org\/templates\/story\/story.php?storyId=90311455\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cI am Evolution\u201d<\/a>. Open Parachute has been looking at <a href=\"http:\/\/openparachute.wordpress.com\/2008\/05\/13\/dissent-from-darwinism-list-further-analysis\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">the \u201cDissent from Darwinism\u201d list<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Is <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/erv\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">ERV<\/a> right that <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/erv\/2008\/05\/lol_atheism_wins.php\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Einstein was an atheist after all<\/a>? That conclusion seems unlikely in view of his other statements on the subject, so either his views need to be nuanced more precisely, or they developped over the course of his life. Personally, I think ERV mistakes rejection of religion and even theism for rejection of any possible meaningful concept of, and use of the term, God. See <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/science\/2008\/may\/12\/peopleinscience.religion\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">the article about Einstein\u2019s letter that brought this up<\/a>. Plenty of people reject the Bible and specific religious ideas without being \u201catheists\u201d. The term \u201catheist\u201d is itself confusing, since it is often unclear whether those who use the label understand it to mean a rejection of every notion of God, or a rejection of theism. Depending on one\u2019s definition, pantheism may be a <i>tertium quid<\/i> left out of consideration, or a \u201csexed-up\u201d form of atheism. At any rate, Einstein\u2019s view of the term \u201cgod\u201d as impoverished and human is one that plenty of mystics and theologians would share! [My only reason for using the Latin \u201ctertium quid\u201d is I think it would be a cool name for a blog, for someone who is as concerned about identifying middle ground and more than two options in various debates and discussions].<\/p>\n<p>I hate when fundamentalists quote scientists \u2013 or the Bible \u2013 out of context. Supporters of evolution and science in general, please let\u2019s lead by example and not treat short quotations as definitive proof of someone\u2019s views on a topic! Go to <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/pharyngula\/2008\/05\/einstein_on_gods_and_judaism.php\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Pharyngula<\/a> for what seems to me to be a better treatment of this piece of news.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/ntgateway.com\/weblog\/2008\/05\/orality-and-literacy-i-exaggerated.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mark Goodacre<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/forbiddengospels.blogspot.com\/2008\/05\/what-is-orality.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">April DeConick<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/lorenrosson.blogspot.com\/2008\/05\/back-to-oral-culture-ii.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Loren Rosson<\/a> have been <a href=\"http:\/\/ntgateway.com\/weblog\/2008\/05\/orality-and-literacy-ii-clarifying.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">discussing oral tradition<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>There are <a href=\"http:\/\/galacticasitrep.blogspot.com\/2008\/05\/reviews-of-faith.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">reviews of \u201cFaith\u201d<\/a>, the latest episode of Battlestar Galactica (which I have yet to watch).<\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/7622297540113836091-2303984191155186394?l=exploringourmatrix.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(Or \u201cEinstein the Atheist Wraps Anti-Evolutionists in Poison Ivy Flagella\u201d) Those who claim evolution makes no predictions need to go roll around in poison ivy. For some, experiential learning works best. Mark Perrakh talks about what bacterial flagella really look like. 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