{"id":3724,"date":"2008-05-05T22:57:00","date_gmt":"2008-05-05T22:57:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2008\/05\/leaving-god-behind\/"},"modified":"2008-05-05T22:57:00","modified_gmt":"2008-05-05T22:57:00","slug":"leaving-god-behind","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2008\/05\/leaving-god-behind.html","title":{"rendered":"Leaving God Behind"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>I was going to call this blog entry \u201cTaking Leave Of God\u201d, but since I\u2019ve actually never read Don Cupitt\u2019s book by that title, I decided not to allude to it. The inspiration for this entry in fact comes from some verses in <a href=\"http:\/\/ntwrong.wordpress.com\/2008\/05\/06\/but-archaeology-does-disprove-the-bible\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Exodus<\/a>\u00a033 \u2013 a story tucked away between the better-known stories of the golden calf and of the theophany in which Moses gets to see God\u2019s \u201crear end\u201d (and then provides new tablets with the \u201cten commandments\u201d which don\u2019t match those originally given in Exodus 20).<\/p>\n<p>There are three possibilities with respect to the interpretation of the story in Exodus 33:1-3. One is that it was written with no intention that it be taken literally. A second is that God said things in this story that accomodated the Israelites\u2019 understanding. Finally, one can suggest that it was indeed meant literally as written, but we cannot accept its literal meaning today. The second option seems to be merely an attempt to \u2018have our cake and eat it too\u2019, to recognize the humanness of the passage but assert its divine origin nonetheless. Of the three, the latter option seems the best fit to me.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/sanyu.typepad.com\/photos\/egypt\/mount_sinai_view.JPG\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" style=\"border: 0px\" src=\"https:\/\/sanyu.typepad.com\/photos\/egypt\/mount_sinai_view.JPG\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" border=\"0\"><\/a>In the story, the God who dwells on Sinai offers to send an angel to accompany the people. But Yahweh himself will not accompany them, since he\u2019d probably just get fed up and destroy them on the way. Not only is God anthropomorphized in the story. God is <em>localized<\/em> in a manner typical of the time. God dwells on Sinai, and in order to dwell in the tabernacle and accompany the people, he would have to depart his historic dwelling place on the mountain, presumably. When things need to be done in his absence, he empowers a person and gives their staff powerful \u201cmagical\u201d abilities.<\/p>\n<p>In an ongoing <a href=\"http:\/\/sandwalk.blogspot.com\/2008\/05\/sophisticated-religion.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">discussion on another blog<\/a>, I\u2019ve been told once again that there are really only two options: theism (= belief in localized, anthropomorphized, supernatural deities, as expressed in the Exodus story) and atheism (= the denial of the existence of such beings). If this were correct, presumably that would make me and many others \u201cChristian atheists\u201d. But unless one wants to narrow the definition of atheism to \u201cthe denial of <em>theism<\/em>\u201c, then I absolutely reject this dichotomy. Christian theology of the past hundred years or so has focused on thinking of God as <em>greater<\/em> than the image in this Exodus story, not less. The alternative for those who find religious language still a key part in doing justice to the wider and deeper world that science has made known to us do not simply cast aside <em>all<\/em> notions of God, but rethink the meaning of such language in light of our increased knowledge and our new perspective.<\/p>\n<p>Exodus offers a God that can be left behind. Atheism recommends doing just that. Progressive Christianity, Liberal Christianity, and many other forms of sophisticated theology recommend leaving behind the image of a God that can be left behind, and adopting instead the language of God as all-encompassing transcendence. This is not \u201cshifting the goal post\u201d or being slippery. It is about redefining our concepts and reformulating our metaphors for the ultimate as our knowledge about the non-ultimate expands and grows. This process will only seem inappropriate to those who share the fundamentalist notion of theology as offering timeless truths and certainties untainted by culture or human limitations. To those who have studied enough theology and\/or enough of the Bible and\/or enough other subjects will realize that this is a natural process that occurs in all human endeavors. Music must become more daring and dissonant as familiar harmonies become boring. Language must be pushed to its limits as metaphors die. Concepts of God must be rethought and revisioned as symbols that once pointed beyond what we know now compete with science and other domains of knowledge, and lose.<\/p>\n<p>Science tells us things that we can feel confident we \u201cknow\u201d with as much certainty as is possible, using carefully defined tools and methods appropriate to its investigation and analysis. Religion (as I perceive and practice it) is more of a poetic, artistic work of the <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/evolvingthoughts\/2008\/05\/religion_and_imagination.php\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">imagination<\/a>, attempting to integrate as many aspects of our experience as possible in a way that allows us to think about the unthinkable and relate to the unknowables, in a way that allows us to perceive the world not merely reductionistically but in ways that take transcendence and meaning seriously.<\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/7622297540113836091-8884082606640734022?l=exploringourmatrix.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I was going to call this blog entry \u201cTaking Leave Of God\u201d, but since I\u2019ve actually never read Don Cupitt\u2019s book by that title, I decided not to allude to it. 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