{"id":3833,"date":"2008-03-26T09:48:00","date_gmt":"2008-03-26T09:48:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2008\/03\/waiting-to-expel\/"},"modified":"2008-03-26T09:48:00","modified_gmt":"2008-03-26T09:48:00","slug":"waiting-to-expel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2008\/03\/waiting-to-expel.html","title":{"rendered":"Waiting to Expel"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Rather than continue to add links to my <a href=\"http:\/\/exploringourmatrix.blogspot.com\/2008\/03\/creationism-and-censorship.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">previous post<\/a> about the expulsion of P. Z<a href=\"http:\/\/post-darwinist.blogspot.com\/2008\/03\/intelligent-design-film-volunteers.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">.<\/a> Myers from a movie entitled <em>Expelled! <\/em>which complains about the \u201cDarwinian establishment\u201d allegedly expelling and censoring people because of their views, I\u2019ve decided to post this follow-up.<\/p>\n<p>If you haven\u2019t been following the issue, please do look into it. The irony is that those who cry that they are being persecuted and censored can, for once, be seen clearly to have been projecting <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.antievolution.org\/cgi-bin\/ikonboard\/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=14;t=5383;st=30#entry101673\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">their own approach<\/a><\/em> onto those they disagree with.<\/p>\n<p>There is a web site dedicated to the issue: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.expelledexposed.com\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Expelled Exposed<\/a>.<br>Amused Muse offers <a href=\"http:\/\/amused-muse.blogspot.com\/2008\/03\/two-expelled-reviews.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">two reviews of <em>Expelled<\/em><\/a>.<br>Higgaion highlights the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.heardworld.com\/higgaion\/?p=984\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">contradictory explanations offered by the same people<\/a> for PZ\u2019s expulsion<a href=\"http:\/\/post-darwinist.blogspot.com\/2008\/03\/framing-science-finding-frame-to-fit.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">.<\/a> The Bad Idea Blog offers a whole series of posts on the subject, the latest being the movie\u2019s producers <a href=\"http:\/\/badidea.wordpress.com\/2008\/03\/25\/expelled-producers-scramble-internet-altered\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">scrambling to deal with the bad PR<\/a> from this incident.<br>Pharyngula offers some <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/pharyngula\/2008\/03\/action_items.php\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">action items<\/a> as well as highlighting <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/pharyngula\/2008\/03\/lying_by_press_release.php\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">more dishonesty<\/a> from the <em>Expelled<\/em> camp.<br>The Panda\u2019s Thumb asks what went wrong that this much-trumpeted movie is turning into <a href=\"http:\/\/pandasthumb.org\/archives\/2008\/03\/like-expelled-l.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">one that has to be given away for free<\/a>, and notes Uncommon Descent\u2019s attempt to <a href=\"http:\/\/pandasthumb.org\/archives\/2008\/03\/ucd-clinton-daw.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">place the blame on \u201cClinton\u201d Dawkins<\/a>.<br>John Pieret has several posts including one on <em><a href=\"http:\/\/dododreams.blogspot.com\/2008\/03\/learning-spin.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">spin<\/a><\/em>.<br><a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/evolutionblog\/2008\/03\/the_whole_expelledframing_thin.php\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Jason Rosenhouse<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/mikethemadbiologist\/2008\/03\/another_fight_about_framing_an.php\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mike the Mad Biologist<\/a> join in the debate about how to best frame the religion-science issue. Greg Laden recommends a <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/gregladen\/2008\/03\/saving_science_from_creationis.php\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">relentless critique<\/a> of antiscientific\/pseudoscientific creationisms. James Hrynyshyn asks <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/islandofdoubt\/2008\/03\/the_expelled_fiasco_whats_wron.php\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">what\u2019s wrong with \u201ctelling it like it is?\u201d<\/a><br>A lengthy collection of skeptical rants is <a href=\"http:\/\/mikesweeklyskepticrant.blogspot.com\/2008\/03\/skeptics-circle-every-one-of-you-is.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">offered by Ben Stein in the first person<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/7622297540113836091-3154707681871579112?l=exploringourmatrix.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Rather than continue to add links to my previous post about the expulsion of P. Z. Myers from a movie entitled Expelled! which complains about the \u201cDarwinian establishment\u201d allegedly expelling and censoring people because of their views, I\u2019ve decided to post this follow-up. If you haven\u2019t been following the issue, please do look into it. [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":136,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3833","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Waiting to Expel<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Rather than continue to add links to my previous post about the expulsion of P. Z. 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