{"id":3934,"date":"2008-02-06T13:46:00","date_gmt":"2008-02-06T13:46:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2008\/02\/the-argument-from-incredulity\/"},"modified":"2008-02-06T13:46:00","modified_gmt":"2008-02-06T13:46:00","slug":"the-argument-from-incredulity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2008\/02\/the-argument-from-incredulity.html","title":{"rendered":"The Argument From Incredulity"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div align=\"center\">\u201cI can\u2019t imagine how this could possibly have happened. Therefore, it didn\u2019t happen\u201d.<\/div>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.talkorigins.org\/indexcc\/CA\/CA100.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">argument from incredulity<\/a> is a classic used by young-earth creationists, and more recently by <a href=\"http:\/\/exploringourmatrix.blogspot.com\/2007\/11\/transitional-forms-as-evidence-for.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">cdesign proponentsists<\/a>. Dave Scot at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.uncommondescent.com\/intelligent-design\/which-came-first-butterfly-or-caterpillar\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Uncommon Descent<\/a> begins by posing the question <a href=\"http:\/\/www.uncommondescent.com\/intelligent-design\/which-came-first-butterfly-or-caterpillar\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cwhich came first, the caterpillar or the butterfly\u201d<\/a> and then goes on to present this as evidence against evolution. The question itself is obviously wrong-headed to begin with \u2013 even a religion professor with no degree in biology can see that if he has taken the time to inform himself about evolution! The theory of evolution doesn\u2019t say that there used to be just eggs and caterpillars, and at some point eggs evolved the ability to hatch chickens, and at some point caterpillars evolved the ability to turn into butterflies. The evolution of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cincinnatiskeptics.org\/blurbs\/butterfly-metamorphosis.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">metamorphosis<\/a> is a legitimate area of inquiry, and while poorly-informed bloggers are throwing up their hands and trying to divert attention elsewhere, scientists continue to work on these questions, and not without results.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_BtqUSG7RCA0\/R6oIGexcT5I\/AAAAAAAAAFs\/Yt0ytrAkTPg\/s1600-h\/caterpillar.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_BtqUSG7RCA0\/R6oIGexcT5I\/AAAAAAAAAFs\/Yt0ytrAkTPg\/s200\/caterpillar.jpg\" border=\"0\"><\/a>As an organism evolves, the precise details and stages of it embryological development will change over time. This field, of how <em>embryos<\/em> evolve with the ability to become various fully-developed adult forms is central to evolutionary developmental biology, or \u201cEvo Devo\u201d for short. When it comes to metamorphosis, we do have evidence of intermediary forms in organisms that currently exist \u2013 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.talkorigins.org\/indexcc\/CB\/CB311.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">a range from no metamorphosis through partial metamorphosis to complete metamorphosis<\/a>. It does not take much searching online to find <a href=\"http:\/\/icb.oxfordjournals.org\/cgi\/reprint\/46\/6\/795.pdf\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">evidence of the fruitful scientific research on this subject<\/a>. From <a href=\"http:\/\/www.madsci.org\/posts\/archives\/jun2000\/960566507.Ev.r.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">popular presentations<\/a> to journal articles. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biol.sc.edu\/~vogt\/courses\/hormones\/Insights%20hormones%20dev%20Manduca%20Dros%20(Riddiford%20etal%20IBMB%202003).pdf\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Lynn Riddiford<\/a> is clearly a key name in this particular field, and it is unclear why Dave Scot was unable to find the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biology.usu.edu\/courses\/biol5530\/Truman99.pdf\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">article she published in <em>Nature <\/em>in 1999<\/a>. But this is typical of various forms of anti-scientific creationism: they do not stay up to date on scientific research, because they are rooting for science to fail and don\u2019t want to draw unnecessary attention to those places where it \u201cfails to fail\u201d contrary to their desires and predictions.<\/p>\n<p>But if scientific explanation is incompatible with belief in God, then the battle is already lost. We can understand that the genetic code that cdesign proponentsists attribute to a Designer carries the instructions that turn fertilized ova into full-grown organisms. If that is a competing explanation to being \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/www.gendertree.com\/Created%20This%20Way.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">knit together in one\u2019s mother\u2019s womb<\/a>\u201c, then there is already a problem. We understand much about <a href=\"http:\/\/exploringourmatrix.blogspot.com\/2007\/08\/heart-of-matter-what-does-god-do.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">meteorology<\/a>, and even if we still have trouble <em>predicting <\/em>the weather we have no problem explaining it in scientific terms. If meteorology is incompatible with the belief that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.believers.org\/believe\/bel111.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">God sends the rain<\/a>, then religion is already in serious trouble.<\/p>\n<p>My advice to religious believers is this: Stop trying to fight science\u2019s attempts to explain things, and focus instead on asking whether or not your religious views are <em>compatible<\/em> with the scientific data. If not, then you need to either <em>change<\/em> your religious beliefs or <em>discard <\/em>them. But to pretend that the issue is limited to evolution and does not relate to the whole range of science and human knowledge is dishonest, and to try to drag us back to earlier times of ignorance because you do not have the courage necessary to rethink and reformulate is unhelpful \u2013 to say the least.<\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/7622297540113836091-8173579639609812895?l=exploringourmatrix.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cI can\u2019t imagine how this could possibly have happened. Therefore, it didn\u2019t happen\u201d. The argument from incredulity is a classic used by young-earth creationists, and more recently by cdesign proponentsists. Dave Scot at Uncommon Descent begins by posing the question \u201cwhich came first, the caterpillar or the butterfly\u201d and then goes on to present this [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":136,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3934","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>The Argument From Incredulity<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"&quot;I can&#039;t imagine how this could possibly have happened. 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