{"id":4269,"date":"2007-09-16T14:21:00","date_gmt":"2007-09-16T14:21:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2007\/09\/being-good-without-god\/"},"modified":"2007-09-16T14:21:00","modified_gmt":"2007-09-16T14:21:00","slug":"being-good-without-god","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2007\/09\/being-good-without-god.html","title":{"rendered":"Being Good Without God"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Bertrand Russell talks about morality as a motivation some people have for adhering to and promoting religious belief. It is a point made more recently by Richard Dawkins. There is certainly some room for criticism of the Christian tradition on this point. Although Matthew\u2019s moral universalization of the Golden Rule as the basis for divine judgment \u2013 \u201cWhat you do unto others, <em>God<\/em> will do unto you\u201d \u2013 may be progress compared to some other systems that are even more arbitrary, it is not as impressive as the sentiment expressed by Rabi\u2019a, the Sufi mystic, in her <a href=\"http:\/\/www.poetry-chaikhana.com\/R\/RabiaAlAdawi\/OmyLordifIwo.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">famous prayer<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>O my Lord, if I worship you from fear of hell, burn me in hell. If I worship<br>you from hope of Paradise, bar me from its gates. But if I worship you for<br>yourself alone, grant me then the beauty of your Face.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Can anyone doubt that this ideal of selflessness is better than a morality based on fear of punishment?<\/p>\n<p>The idea that people will be good only if they fear punishment \u2013 whether from parents, the state and its authorities, or God \u2013 is deeply troubling, since it suggests that the populace is as <u>immature<\/u> <em>morally<\/em> as it is <em>spiritually<\/em>. Does one really need the threat of hell to keep husbands and wives from cheating on one another? Isn\u2019t the fact that you\u2019ve made promises enough? Isn\u2019t the relationship that exists sufficient basis for ethical behavior? Isn\u2019t becoming the sort of person whose promise means nothing a harsh enough judgment?<\/p>\n<p>I agree with Dietrich Bonhoeffer\u2019s suggestion that God wants mature children, able to live \u201cbefore God, as though God were not there\u201d, able to get along without him. Arguments that religion or law or anything else are essential to keep us in line are not arguments anyone should make with pride. Rather they are self-indictments of which we should be deeply ashamed. As the book of Job hinted at long ago, our right and wrong actions don\u2019t affect God. They affect others, and ourselves. Anyone who doesn\u2019t find the consequences of their actions, and what their actions say about themselves, sufficient reason to act ethically, should think long and hard about what this says about the sort of people they are.<\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/7622297540113836091-9103114675114502197?l=exploringourmatrix.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bertrand Russell talks about morality as a motivation some people have for adhering to and promoting religious belief. It is a point made more recently by Richard Dawkins. There is certainly some room for criticism of the Christian tradition on this point. 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