{"id":4296,"date":"2007-08-22T13:13:00","date_gmt":"2007-08-22T13:13:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2007\/08\/oral-tradition-and-eyewitness-testimony\/"},"modified":"2007-08-22T13:13:00","modified_gmt":"2007-08-22T13:13:00","slug":"oral-tradition-and-eyewitness-testimony","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2007\/08\/oral-tradition-and-eyewitness-testimony.html","title":{"rendered":"Oral Tradition and Eyewitness Testimony"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div><\/div>\n<p>There is a very important post about Richard Bauckham\u2019s recent book <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0802831621?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jamefmcgrshom-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0802831621\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Jesus and the Eyewitnesses: The Gospels as Eyewitness Testimony<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"1\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=jamefmcgrshom-20&amp;l=as2&amp;amp;amp;o=1&amp;a=0802831621\" width=\"1\" border=\"0\">on the <a href=\"http:\/\/vridar.wordpress.com\/2007\/08\/22\/bauckhams-jesus-and-the-eyewitnesses-chapter-18e\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Vridar blog<\/a>. There it is drawn to our attention that one particular instance of testimony about the Holocaust (an example Bauckham uses in his book), which is assumed to be reliable, turned out to in fact be <em>fiction<\/em>. A <a href=\"http:\/\/groups.yahoo.com\/group\/J_D_G_DunnSeminar\/message\/100\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">similar point<\/a> was made about oral tradition by <a href=\"http:\/\/iac.cgu.edu\/\/deslecfall03.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Ted Weeden<\/a> at SBL not that long ago, pointing out that whereas <a href=\"http:\/\/matt1618.freeyellow.com\/oraltradition.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Kenneth Bailey<\/a> is correct that a story about missionary <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.360.yahoo.com\/blog-lb3Fp1IjfrDu4TNRzbltcnO.?p=113\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">John Hogg<\/a> was passed on faithfully for decades, it is also the case that the story they passed on so faithfully was not, according to Hogg\u2019s biography written by his daughter, what actually happened.<\/p>\n<p>I still recommend that anyone interested in oral tradition and testimony read the work of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0202308197?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jamefmcgrshom-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0202308197\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Jan Vansina<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"1\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=jamefmcgrshom-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0202308197\" width=\"1\" border=\"0\">, which deals with both, and confirms from much field work what we all ought to know instinctively, namely that neither testimony nor oral tradition is consistently reliable, but both can be at times. Both need to be tested using the methods of historical investigation. There is no way around it.<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<p>As I write this, I am listening once again to the music of Dan Locklair. I highly recommend it! It is wonderfully melodic music in a typically American form of late Romanticism. I listened once again last night (when I couldn\u2019t sleep) to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B0000016I7?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jamefmcgrshom-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B0000016I7\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Kurt Atterberg\u2019s Symphony No.6, V\u00e4rmland Rhapsody and Ballad without Words<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"1\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=jamefmcgrshom-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B0000016I7\" width=\"1\" border=\"0\">. It never ceases to amaze me how skilled Atterberg was at weaving together simultaneous melodies. If you are new to his music, try the slow movement of the symphony on that CD, the Varmland Rhapsody and eventually the Ballad Without Words. Such beautiful music \u2013 and it is such beauty rather, than any theological argument, that keeps my belief in the reality of transcendence, depth, meaning and ultimate concern alive.<\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/7622297540113836091-6373246097485792354?l=exploringourmatrix.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There is a very important post about Richard Bauckham\u2019s recent book Jesus and the Eyewitnesses: The Gospels as Eyewitness Testimonyon the Vridar blog. 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