{"id":4377,"date":"2007-07-06T19:12:00","date_gmt":"2007-07-06T19:12:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2007\/07\/are-you-alive-prove-it\/"},"modified":"2007-07-06T19:12:00","modified_gmt":"2007-07-06T19:12:00","slug":"are-you-alive-prove-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2007\/07\/are-you-alive-prove-it.html","title":{"rendered":"Are You Alive? Prove It!"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Fans of the current <a href=\"http:\/\/www.battlestargalactica.com\/newguide.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Battlestar Galactica <\/a>series will recognize the title of this blog entry as the first words of dialogue spoken on the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.battlestargalactica.com\/moderndocs\/jl_eps_guide0001.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">miniseries<\/a> that started it. The question is asked by an evolved cylon who poses the challenge to a human armistice officer. It was only today that the full significance of these words struck me, for some reason. The question is presumably one that had, at some point in the past, been asked by humans of the cylons. The machines evolved and became intelligent, and demanded rights. \u201cSo you claim you are alive and deserve rights?\u201d they were asked. \u201cProve it!\u201d The cylons, having evolved to the point where they resemble their creators, are to be viewed as posing this question back to their makers.<\/p>\n<p>The troubling thing is that <a href=\"http:\/\/helpychalk.blogspot.com\/2007\/06\/battlestar-paper-part-iii.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">we cannot prove it<\/a>. Even if we might make some attempt at proving we are alive, we confront the possibility that there may be (as the famous phrase from Star Trek put it) \u201clife\u2026but not as we know it\u201d. If we wished to prove our sentience that would be altogether impossible \u2013 how can we prove a subjective experience?<\/p>\n<p>There is an \u201cobvious\u201d lesson to take away from this, namely that if our \u201ctoasters\u201d or any other appliances demand rights claiming they are living and\/or sentient, we should take them at their word \u2013 and hope they take us at ours. Yet there is the broader question of other subjective experiences and how far we can press this analogy. What about those who claim to have achieved enlightenment, or experienced Jesus as alive? The difference, perhaps, is that each of us has an experience of consciousness, while not all of us have experienced either enlightenment or the risen Jesus. Being alive and conscious are in a category of their own \u2013 that which thinkers such as Descartes and Sankara have pointed to as impossible to deny without inherent self-contradiction. 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