{"id":451,"date":"2011-01-12T08:30:00","date_gmt":"2011-01-12T08:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2011\/01\/mythicism-creationism-certainty-and-innkeepers-around-the-blogosphere\/"},"modified":"2011-01-12T08:30:00","modified_gmt":"2011-01-12T08:30:00","slug":"mythicism-creationism-certainty-and-innkeepers-around-the-blogosphere","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2011\/01\/mythicism-creationism-certainty-and-innkeepers-around-the-blogosphere.html","title":{"rendered":"Mythicism, Creationism, Certainty and Innkeepers around the Blogosphere"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mandm.org.nz\/2011\/01\/did-hannibal-of-carthage-exist.html?utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=did-hannibal-of-carthage-exist\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Matt Flannagan<\/a> links to <a href=\"http:\/\/bedejournal.blogspot.com\/2011\/01\/christ-myth-wont-die.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">a series of posts on mythicism at\u00a0James Hannam\u2019s\u00a0blog Quodlibet<\/a>. The articles themselves appeared on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/Resources\/Additional-Resources\/Is-Jesus-Christ-a-Myth-Part-4-James-Hannam.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Patheos<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/thebiblicalworld.blogspot.com\/2011\/01\/was-jesus-historical-person.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">John Byron also mentions the question of Jesus\u2019 existence<\/a>, and has a book giveaway as well.<\/p>\n<p>Also of interest, <a href=\"http:\/\/unreasonablefaith.com\/2011\/01\/12\/why-the-inn\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Unreasonable Faith<\/a> links to <a href=\"http:\/\/whatever.scalzi.com\/2010\/12\/21\/an-interview-with-the-nativity-innkeeper\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">a humorous interview with the Bethlehem innkeeper<\/a> and in the process raises the issue of whether there is an \u201cinn\u201d in Luke\u2019s story at all. But such cultural and historical considerations aside, it is problematic to have Galileans participate in a census of Judaea that didn\u2019t cover Galilee, unless they had some property that they wanted to maintain a claim to, in which case why are they relying on hospitality, even if they weren\u2019t staying at an inn?<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/whatever.scalzi.com\/2010\/12\/21\/an-interview-with-the-nativity-innkeeper\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">interview with the innkeeper<\/a>, by the way, is definitely worth a read. My favorite part is this:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u2026Do you know what a manger is?<\/p>\n<p><em>As far as I know, it\u2019s the place you put infant messiahs.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s a food trough for animals.<\/p>\n<p><em>Oh. Interesting.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u201cOh, interesting\u201d is right. Let me ask you. So your baby is born, and the first thing you do is put him in an open container filled with grain and covered in oxen drool? Does this seem reasonable to you?<\/p>\n<p><em>You did have them out with the animals. Their options were limited.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>I rented cribs. I asked Joseph, do you want a crib. And he said, no, we\u2019re fine, and then sets the kid in the food box. And I say to him, you\u2019re new at this, aren\u2019t you.<\/p>\n<p><em>In his defense, he was.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>And then someone says, look, the animals, they are adoring the baby. And I say, adoring, hell. They\u2019re wondering why there\u2019s a baby in their food.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In relation to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.religiondispatches.org\/dispatches\/laurilebo\/4023\/teacher_who_burned_cross_into_student%E2%80%99s_arm_fired\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">creationism<\/a> and related matters, John Pieret is the latest to mention <a href=\"http:\/\/dododreams.blogspot.com\/2011\/01\/kicking-id-to-gutter.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Albert Mohler\u2019s problematic view of science<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/biologos.org\/blog\/genesis-creation-and-ancient-interpreters-working-and-guarding-the-garden\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Pete Enns discusses traditions of interpretation in Genesis 2:15<\/a>. Of course, the language of \u201cguarding\u201d paradise made me think about protecting the island on LOST\u2026<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/bigbible.org\/sansblogue\/bible\/biblical-interpretation\/flat-earth-society\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">SansBlogue debunks once again the myth that prior to Columbus, people thought the Earth was flat<\/a> (although some who were trying to be Biblical literalists did think that, and some still do).<\/p>\n<p>Finally, relevant to all of the above is <a href=\"http:\/\/de-conversion.com\/2011\/01\/12\/are-you-sure-youre-sure\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">the discussion of the feeling of certainty at De-Conversion<\/a>. Here\u2019s a sample:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Moreover, certainty has been claimed by many religious and ideological adherents, as well as every conspiracy theorist on the planet. Logically, they can\u2019t all be right. Logically, in fact, it must be the case that the majority of people who claim perfect certainty in their conclusions, are in fact wrong, and their feeling of being certain must be just that \u2013 a feeling. A feeling, that does not feel like a feeling; that feels, rather, like an accurate assessment of the world.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/7622297540113836091-2130307305293778719?l=exploringourmatrix.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Matt Flannagan links to a series of posts on mythicism at\u00a0James Hannam\u2019s\u00a0blog Quodlibet. The articles themselves appeared on Patheos. John Byron also mentions the question of Jesus\u2019 existence, and has a book giveaway as well. 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