{"id":49965,"date":"2020-05-31T05:42:23","date_gmt":"2020-05-31T09:42:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/?p=49965"},"modified":"2020-05-28T15:45:44","modified_gmt":"2020-05-28T19:45:44","slug":"historical-jesus-may-2020","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2020\/05\/historical-jesus-may-2020.html","title":{"rendered":"The Latest on the Historical Jesus and the Gospels"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>There has been so much of interest related to the historical Jesus and the Gospels recently that a collection of links with a few quotes and discussions seemed in order. Let me start with something that initially seems only tangentially related.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/muse.jhu.edu\/article\/755198\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">This fascinating article on Josephus\u2019 references to \u201cGalileans\u201d suggests that he viewed them as a distinct ethnos from the Jews of Galilee, to be found primarily in the urban centers<\/a>. Is that the right way to understand Josephus\u2019 terminology? If so, what might that mean for our perception of the historical Jesus?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/historyforatheists.com\/2020\/05\/jesus-mythicism-6-pauls-davidic-jesus-in-romans-13\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Tim O\u2019Neill writes<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Mythicists have plenty of ways to reinterpret these bothersome passages or find other ways to dismiss them. The problem is that their arguments are, as usual, contorted,\u00a0<em>ad hoc<\/em>\u00a0or rely on dubious readings and so have been found unconvincing by the vast majority of scholars, Christian or otherwise. But the reference to Jesus as \u201cdescended from David according to the flesh\u201d has proven a particularly thorny problem for Mythicists and they have had to work hard to jam it into the framework of their theory. Their efforts are varied but none of them are convincing and one prominent effort in particular is so ridiculously convoluted as to be quite laughable.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>You should definitely read the entire thing, as he goes into a lot of detail about what Earl Doherty, Richard Carrier, and various other mythicists have to say. For instance:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>But no-one can say Carrier lacks conviction or bravado. Despite this \u201ccosmic sperm bank\u201d idea being one that even his most ardent disciples find less than compelling and other Mythicists find downright embarrassing, Carrier is tireless in defending it. And, in doing so, he gets increasingly dogmatic and shrill about it. So he defends it\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.richardcarrier.info\/archives\/13387\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">here<\/a>. And\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.richardcarrier.info\/archives\/15086#seed\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">here<\/a>. And, again,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.richardcarrier.info\/archives\/16065\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">here<\/a>. And each time he becomes more strident and insistent. You almost have to wonder if he is really convinced himself.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>https:\/\/historyforatheists.com\/2020\/05\/jesus-mythicism-6-pauls-davidic-jesus-in-romans-13\/<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/43141837\/THE_QUEST_OF_THE_MYTHICAL_JESUS_A_History_of_Jesus_Skepticism_ca._1574_to_the_Present\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">a book manuscript draft that has been shared by Christopher Hansen on Academia.edu,\u00a0<em>The Quest of the Mythical Jesus<\/em><\/a>. He discusses my work at length, and summarizes it thus:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>James F. McGrath has been one of the most active voices in speaking out against Jesus Skepticism in the academic world. He has been voicing his concerns both in public venues, such as Patheos, and then also on more academic forums as well. Of many of the current academics in the debate, he one of the most extensive bibliographies of critiques. His work has been particularly influential as a result of the publicity and awareness he has spread on the issue of Jesus\u2019 historicity.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>There\u2019s a lot of discussion of a new book that I too am eager to read, Helen Bond\u2019s latest, <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/2THuLwt\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>The First Biography of Jesus: Genre and Meaning in Mark\u2019s Gospel<\/em><\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>http:\/\/eerdword.com\/2020\/04\/29\/five-questions-with-helen-bond\/<\/p>\n<p>http:\/\/eerdword.com\/2020\/04\/30\/genre-matters-the-first-biography-of-jesus\/<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"wuCNKhCO6K\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/bibleandculture\/2020\/05\/07\/helen-bonds-the-first-biography-of-jesus-part-one\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Helen Bond\u2019s\u2013 The First Biography of Jesus Part One<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cHelen Bond\u2019s\u2013 The First Biography of Jesus Part One\u201d \u2014 The Bible and Culture\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/bibleandculture\/2020\/05\/07\/helen-bonds-the-first-biography-of-jesus-part-one\/embed\/#?secret=WzHoWlHWZg#?secret=wuCNKhCO6K\" data-secret=\"wuCNKhCO6K\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"B3HnokREmX\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/bibleandculture\/2020\/05\/08\/helen-bonds-the-first-biography-of-jesus-part-two\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Helen Bond\u2019s The First Biography of Jesus\u2014 Part Two<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cHelen Bond\u2019s The First Biography of Jesus\u2014 Part Two\u201d \u2014 The Bible and Culture\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/bibleandculture\/2020\/05\/08\/helen-bonds-the-first-biography-of-jesus-part-two\/embed\/#?secret=CqDPkyHg5k#?secret=B3HnokREmX\" data-secret=\"B3HnokREmX\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"GmUhEz9MAR\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/bibleandculture\/2020\/05\/09\/helen-bonds-the-first-biography-of-jesus-part-three\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Helen Bond\u2019s The First Biography of Jesus\u2013 Part Three<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cHelen Bond\u2019s The First Biography of Jesus\u2013 Part Three\u201d \u2014 The Bible and Culture\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/bibleandculture\/2020\/05\/09\/helen-bonds-the-first-biography-of-jesus-part-three\/embed\/#?secret=75qgKdUsZA#?secret=GmUhEz9MAR\" data-secret=\"GmUhEz9MAR\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"TbI3Zfx7Yt\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/bibleandculture\/2020\/05\/18\/helen-bonds-the-first-biography-of-jesus-part-four\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Helen Bond\u2019s The First Biography of Jesus\u2014 Part Four<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cHelen Bond\u2019s The First Biography of Jesus\u2014 Part Four\u201d \u2014 The Bible and Culture\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/bibleandculture\/2020\/05\/18\/helen-bonds-the-first-biography-of-jesus-part-four\/embed\/#?secret=Oj2oABwcxt#?secret=TbI3Zfx7Yt\" data-secret=\"TbI3Zfx7Yt\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>http:\/\/eerdword.com\/2020\/05\/28\/reading-marks-gospel-as-a-text-from-collective-memory\/<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"W1QVMoNxN4\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/jesusmemoirs.wordpress.com\/2020\/04\/23\/demonstrating-justins-literary-dependence-on-a-gospel\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Demonstrating Justin\u2019s Literary Dependence on a\u00a0Gospel<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cDemonstrating Justin\u2019s Literary Dependence on a\u00a0Gospel\u201d \u2014 The Jesus Memoirs\" src=\"https:\/\/jesusmemoirs.wordpress.com\/2020\/04\/23\/demonstrating-justins-literary-dependence-on-a-gospel\/embed\/#?secret=N72uEL1DYp#?secret=W1QVMoNxN4\" data-secret=\"W1QVMoNxN4\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"lsDtZc22t9\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/jesusmemoirs.wordpress.com\/2020\/04\/20\/why-did-justin-martyr-call-the-gospels-memoirs\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Why Did Justin Martyr Call the \u201cGospels\u201d Memoirs?<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cWhy Did Justin Martyr Call the \u201cGospels\u201d Memoirs?\u201d \u2014 The Jesus Memoirs\" src=\"https:\/\/jesusmemoirs.wordpress.com\/2020\/04\/20\/why-did-justin-martyr-call-the-gospels-memoirs\/embed\/#?secret=y3asqwkhFf#?secret=lsDtZc22t9\" data-secret=\"lsDtZc22t9\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"v1yUQwZZAR\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/biblicalstudiesonline.wordpress.com\/2020\/05\/11\/johns-knowledge-of-the-synoptics-mark-goodacre-vs-chris-keith\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">John\u2019s Knowledge of the Synoptics: Mark Goodacre vs. Chris\u00a0Keith<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cJohn\u2019s Knowledge of the Synoptics: Mark Goodacre vs. Chris\u00a0Keith\u201d \u2014 Biblical Studies Online\" src=\"https:\/\/biblicalstudiesonline.wordpress.com\/2020\/05\/11\/johns-knowledge-of-the-synoptics-mark-goodacre-vs-chris-keith\/embed\/#?secret=tDDs5f48RT#?secret=v1yUQwZZAR\" data-secret=\"v1yUQwZZAR\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/bibleandclassstruggle.wordpress.com\/2020\/05\/26\/what-you-need-to-know-about-jesus-the-poor-and-class-struggle\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">What you need to know about Jesus, the poor, and class struggle<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"cKvD9qkf02\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/dunelm.wordpress.com\/2020\/05\/26\/reading-mark-in-context-table-of-contents\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Reading Mark in Context \u2013 Table of\u00a0Contents<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cReading Mark in Context \u2013 Table of\u00a0Contents\u201d \u2014 Dunelm Road\" src=\"https:\/\/dunelm.wordpress.com\/2020\/05\/26\/reading-mark-in-context-table-of-contents\/embed\/#?secret=XaD9e0vQnC#?secret=cKvD9qkf02\" data-secret=\"cKvD9qkf02\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/scribesofthekingdom686237748.wordpress.com\/2020\/05\/15\/from-prophet-to-king-how-and-why-jesus-laid-claim-to-davids-throne\/<\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/scribesofthekingdom686237748.wordpress.com\/2020\/05\/13\/when-jesus-was-elijah-the-prophet\/<\/p>\n<p>Kevin Scull launched a new YouTube channel:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"What Religion Was Jesus\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/ZqYF8Uxk8JU?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"BC60l4PqGt\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/thesacredpage.com\/2020\/05\/26\/ears-and-eyes-at-nazareth\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ears and Eyes at Nazareth<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cEars and Eyes at Nazareth\u201d \u2014 The Sacred Page\" src=\"https:\/\/thesacredpage.com\/2020\/05\/26\/ears-and-eyes-at-nazareth\/embed\/#?secret=UTFjYUHOdI#?secret=BC60l4PqGt\" data-secret=\"BC60l4PqGt\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"JlInr3BzYP\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/thesacredpage.com\/2020\/05\/18\/matthew-as-the-book-of-the-genesis-of-jesus-christ-chris-keith-patrick-schreiner-and-thomas-aquinas-on-matt-11\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Matthew as the \u201cBook of the Genesis of Jesus Christ\u201d: Chris Keith, Patrick Schreiner, and Thomas Aquinas on Matt 1:1<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cMatthew as the \u201cBook of the Genesis of Jesus Christ\u201d: Chris Keith, Patrick Schreiner, and Thomas Aquinas on Matt 1:1\u201d \u2014 The Sacred Page\" src=\"https:\/\/thesacredpage.com\/2020\/05\/18\/matthew-as-the-book-of-the-genesis-of-jesus-christ-chris-keith-patrick-schreiner-and-thomas-aquinas-on-matt-11\/embed\/#?secret=S3LIkFvvMS#?secret=JlInr3BzYP\" data-secret=\"JlInr3BzYP\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"rMUbTc46eb\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/thesacredpage.com\/2020\/04\/23\/jesus-research-historical-methodology-and-the-temple-conflicts-in-acts-a-note-from-eyal-regevs-new-book\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Jesus Research, Historical Methodology, and the Temple Conflicts in Acts: A Note from Eyal Regev\u2019s New Book<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cJesus Research, Historical Methodology, and the Temple Conflicts in Acts: A Note from Eyal Regev\u2019s New Book\u201d \u2014 The Sacred Page\" src=\"https:\/\/thesacredpage.com\/2020\/04\/23\/jesus-research-historical-methodology-and-the-temple-conflicts-in-acts-a-note-from-eyal-regevs-new-book\/embed\/#?secret=nPZo0YuSVc#?secret=rMUbTc46eb\" data-secret=\"rMUbTc46eb\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/ehrmanblog.org\/were-the-gospels-generally-written-for-communities-of-christians-guest-post-by-hugo-mendez\/<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"E2bQBw5ASk\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/brokenoracles.com\/2020\/05\/21\/who-is-my-mother\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Who is my\u00a0Mother?<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cWho is my\u00a0Mother?\u201d \u2014 Broken Oracles\" src=\"https:\/\/brokenoracles.com\/2020\/05\/21\/who-is-my-mother\/embed\/#?secret=qs4dE4Ao9a#?secret=E2bQBw5ASk\" data-secret=\"E2bQBw5ASk\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/biblemythhistory.com\/im-starting-a-blog-series-on-the-case-for-a-proto-gospel\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Gary Greenberg is starting a blog series about his new book making the case for a proto-Gospel used by the authors of Mark and John<\/a>. <a href=\"http:\/\/biblemythhistory.com\/the-case-for-a-proto-gospel-and-standard-source-criticism-theory\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Here is the first major installment<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"SA0doYCcgm\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/germanforneutestamentler.com\/2020\/04\/27\/i-also-decided-to-write-michael-wolter-on-lukes-relationship-to-his-predecessors\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cI also decided \u2026 to write\u201d\u2014Michael Wolter on Luke\u2019s Relationship to his\u00a0Predecessors<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201c\u201cI also decided \u2026 to write\u201d\u2014Michael Wolter on Luke\u2019s Relationship to his\u00a0Predecessors\u201d \u2014 German for Neutestamentler\" src=\"https:\/\/germanforneutestamentler.com\/2020\/04\/27\/i-also-decided-to-write-michael-wolter-on-lukes-relationship-to-his-predecessors\/embed\/#?secret=MXZWUXDxnK#?secret=SA0doYCcgm\" data-secret=\"SA0doYCcgm\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/pursiful.com\/2020\/05\/06\/on-the-trail-of-the-beloved-disciple\/<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"VWwPMC4Flt\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/cruxsola\/2020\/04\/book-notice-the-first-biography-of-jesus-genre-and-meaning-in-marks-gospel-by-helen-bond\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Book Notice: The First Biography of Jesus: Genre and Meaning in Mark\u2019s Gospel, by Helen Bond<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cBook Notice: The First Biography of Jesus: Genre and Meaning in Mark\u2019s Gospel, by Helen Bond\u201d \u2014 Crux Sola: Formed by Scripture to Live like Christ\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/cruxsola\/2020\/04\/book-notice-the-first-biography-of-jesus-genre-and-meaning-in-marks-gospel-by-helen-bond\/embed\/#?secret=OjdGXoGWao#?secret=VWwPMC4Flt\" data-secret=\"VWwPMC4Flt\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ancientjewreview.com\/articles\/2020\/5\/3\/book-note-matthew-within-sectarian-judaism\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ancient Jew Review reviews\u00a0<em>Matthew Within Sectarian Judaism<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/bmcr.brynmawr.edu\/2020\/2020.05.26\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Andrew Steck writes in his review of M. David Litwa\u2019s latest book<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Litwa analyzes the gospels as his foundational source material and uses examples from Greek and Roman mytho- and historiography to demonstrate Christian imitation. He uses a wide range of literary examples featuring the important figures of antiquity to make his argument, including leaders, such as Achilles and Moses; the authors, including Cicero and Petrarch; and the thinkers, including Pythagoras and Philostratus. Using such a spectrum of historical figures allows Litwa to demonstrate over the course of the monograph that the evangelists were well-read and knowledgeable about the historiographic and literary traditions of which they were heirs, a fact that is not immediately apparent from the unadorned rhetoric of the gospels. The consistency with which Litwa argues for the sophistication of the evangelists\u2019 education throughout the work indicates that he believes this to be an important paradigm that must be engaged further. His argument inspires questions, perhaps for future work, about the extent to which early Christians who received the gospels, as opposed to writing them, would have recognized contemporaneously that the gospels contained mythic and historiographic elements.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.billheroman.com\/2020\/05\/the-synoptic-climax.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bill Heroman writes on what he refers to as the Synoptic climax<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<div>The climax of the synoptic timeline\u2013the moment at which the developing actions stop building up from their beginning and begin sliding down towards their end\u2013is when Jesus announces that he is planning to go to Jerusalem and be killed. To be clear, the climactic point is NOT being told that Jesus is going to be killed. That is not our dramatic turning point because nobody in the original audience could have been expected to feel surprised by this revelation. The audience already knew: Jesus dies at the end.\u00a0<u>Rather, the dramatic surprise is that Jesus knew going in, announced it, and\u00a0<i>embraced it<\/i>\u00a0as God\u2019s plan for his life<\/u>. When the Gospel writers sat down to communicate, THIS was one of the key talking points they were hoping to establish. THIS was part of their purpose in writing. THIS was their point. THIS was their spin.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>I should quickly add, discerning that this was an authorial agenda does not necessarily imply that such spin was in any way contrived or non-factual. To the contrary, often times people spinning the hardest are doing so precisely because they believe passionately that their perspective\u2013their own personal view of the facts\u2013is helpful, insightful, and the proper bias that everyone ought to uphold. On the other hand, just as obviously, the earnestness or enthusiasm of political spin does not and cannot tell us that a version of past events *IS* necessarily accurate, either. We cannot separate \u201cfacts\u201d from \u201cinterpretation\u201d because, as my advisor Chris Keith and others have shown decisively, \u201cThere are no uninterpreted facts.\u201d Therefore, as a point of historical inquiry, we will never know for certain whether Jesus actually predicted his death beforehand and embraced it OR NOT\u2026 but our ignorance is not alleviated merely by observing this act of emplotment.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>What we CAN do, instead, is enjoy and appreciate the drama. At least for starters, we can recognize that Matthew, Mark, and Luke are depicting a world in which Jesus made this dramatic revelation. Just as \u201cDid Jesus expect his own death?\u201d is an important historical question precisely because it notes the Gospel writers\u2019 agenda(s), so also \u201cJesus expected his own death\u201d is an important aspect of the story to recognize, for the same reason: precisely because it strikes at the heart of an idea which the authors were aiming to convey.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>The Gospels are ancient biographies that have been somewhat emplotted. Their purpose was not just to inform people about Jesus but to cast a particular light onto well known events of his famous existence. For the Gospel writers, it was high on their list of priorities to convey that crucifixion was not a mistake. They were passionate about communicating that Jesus\u2019s death was one event God intended to happen. The story of the Gospels is that Jesus, who had always embraced sacrificial living for the glory of his beloved father in heaven, at some point realized and embraced God\u2019s plan for the ultimate sacrifice.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"9HsbWOeweB\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/johntsquires.com\/2020\/05\/06\/i-am-the-way-john-14-from-elitist-exclusivism-to-gracious-friendship\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cI am the way\u201d (John 14): from elitist exclusivism to gracious friendship? (Easter\u00a05A)<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201c\u201cI am the way\u201d (John 14): from elitist exclusivism to gracious friendship? (Easter\u00a05A)\u201d \u2014 An Informed Faith\" src=\"https:\/\/johntsquires.com\/2020\/05\/06\/i-am-the-way-john-14-from-elitist-exclusivism-to-gracious-friendship\/embed\/#?secret=zxgMGYJkNr#?secret=9HsbWOeweB\" data-secret=\"9HsbWOeweB\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/drkimys.blogspot.com\/2020\/05\/still-this-book-of-mine-makes-sense.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Yung Suk Kim also shared thoughts on that text<\/a>, as well an <a href=\"https:\/\/currentsjournal.org\/index.php\/currents\/article\/view\/192\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">article about justice in Jesus\u2019 parables<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.craigkeener.com\/gospels-and-ancient-biographies-1-2-hour\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Craig Keener on Gospels and ancient biographies<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Andrew Perriman on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.postost.net\/2020\/05\/why-did-jesus-tell-his-disciples-take-swords-them\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Jesus telling his disciples to take swords with them<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.postost.net\/2020\/05\/deity-jesus-war-against-rome-theology-cross-hermeneutical-tool\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">the deity of Jesus in a Roman context<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"GSdtScIUqY\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/bibleandculture\/2020\/05\/06\/avoiding-anachronism-whilst-reading-the-gospels\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Avoiding Anachronism whilst Reading the Gospels<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cAvoiding Anachronism whilst Reading the Gospels\u201d \u2014 The Bible and Culture\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/bibleandculture\/2020\/05\/06\/avoiding-anachronism-whilst-reading-the-gospels\/embed\/#?secret=UAE5tP9fjy#?secret=GSdtScIUqY\" data-secret=\"GSdtScIUqY\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"n8IO28QTok\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/thesacredpage.com\/2020\/05\/07\/agape-isnt-a-magical-word-why-peter-was-hurt-that-jesus-asked-him-a-third-time-do-you-love-me\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Agap\u0113 Isn\u2019t A Magical Word: Why Peter Was Hurt That Jesus Asked Him A Third Time, \u201cDo You Love Me?\u201d<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cAgap\u0113 Isn\u2019t A Magical Word: Why Peter Was Hurt That Jesus Asked Him A Third Time, \u201cDo You Love Me?\u201d\u201d \u2014 The Sacred Page\" src=\"https:\/\/thesacredpage.com\/2020\/05\/07\/agape-isnt-a-magical-word-why-peter-was-hurt-that-jesus-asked-him-a-third-time-do-you-love-me\/embed\/#?secret=1cfVHGo8QK#?secret=n8IO28QTok\" data-secret=\"n8IO28QTok\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"REY5hFwkmq\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblicalarchaeology.org\/daily\/the-three-most-important-women-in-marks-gospel-all-unnamed\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Three Most Important Women in Mark\u2019s Gospel\u2014All Unnamed<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cThe Three Most Important Women in Mark\u2019s Gospel\u2014All Unnamed\u201d \u2014 Biblical Archaeology Society\" src=\"https:\/\/www.biblicalarchaeology.org\/daily\/the-three-most-important-women-in-marks-gospel-all-unnamed\/embed\/#?secret=mpodPeZKEb#?secret=REY5hFwkmq\" data-secret=\"REY5hFwkmq\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Ongoing online commentary:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"VidacU1QO6\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/biblicalscholarship.wordpress.com\/2020\/05\/22\/commentary-on-matthew-51-12\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Commentary on Matthew\u00a05:1-12<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cCommentary on Matthew\u00a05:1-12\u201d \u2014 Biblical Scholarship\" src=\"https:\/\/biblicalscholarship.wordpress.com\/2020\/05\/22\/commentary-on-matthew-51-12\/embed\/#?secret=Fexb58uRfI#?secret=VidacU1QO6\" data-secret=\"VidacU1QO6\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>An <a href=\"http:\/\/existentialcomics.com\/comic\/341\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Existential Comics<\/a> made a point about people preferring skepticism to construction in philosophy. The same goes for history and science and explains <a href=\"https:\/\/sojo.net\/articles\/how-did-we-get-here\/when-evangelicals-doubled-down-their-rejection-larger-culture\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">denialism in Christian fundamentalist<\/a> and atheist circles well. Also related in the same vein:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"l4Un1GZGk2\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.skeptic.com\/skepticism-101\/holocaust-denial-lecture\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Holocaust Denial<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cHolocaust Denial\u201d \u2014 Skeptic\" src=\"https:\/\/www.skeptic.com\/skepticism-101\/holocaust-denial-lecture\/embed\/#?secret=tCAX86cjZN#?secret=l4Un1GZGk2\" data-secret=\"l4Un1GZGk2\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Romanian speakers may find this series of posts interesting:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"uVI866ptib\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/danutj.wordpress.com\/2020\/04\/25\/isus-din-evanghelii-11\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Isus din evanghelii\u00a0(11)<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201eIsus din evanghelii\u00a0(11)\u201d \u2013 Alteritas\" src=\"https:\/\/danutj.wordpress.com\/2020\/04\/25\/isus-din-evanghelii-11\/embed\/#?secret=A0pXmdiGzk#?secret=uVI866ptib\" data-secret=\"uVI866ptib\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"syKhfl5S9N\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/danutj.wordpress.com\/2020\/05\/09\/isus-din-evanghelii-12\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Isus din evanghelii\u00a0(12)<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201eIsus din evanghelii\u00a0(12)\u201d \u2013 Alteritas\" src=\"https:\/\/danutj.wordpress.com\/2020\/05\/09\/isus-din-evanghelii-12\/embed\/#?secret=z2J1jiAVvY#?secret=syKhfl5S9N\" data-secret=\"syKhfl5S9N\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"aaX7YsSR3T\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/danutj.wordpress.com\/2020\/05\/23\/isus-din-evanghelii-13\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Isus din evanghelii\u00a0(13)<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201eIsus din evanghelii\u00a0(13)\u201d \u2013 Alteritas\" src=\"https:\/\/danutj.wordpress.com\/2020\/05\/23\/isus-din-evanghelii-13\/embed\/#?secret=aFFXZEq1TE#?secret=aaX7YsSR3T\" data-secret=\"aaX7YsSR3T\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>And somewhat related, <a href=\"https:\/\/biblefilms.blogspot.com\/2020\/04\/still-no-real-news-on-gibsons-passion.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">there\u2019s no news about the rumored sequel to\u00a0<em>The Passion of the Christ<\/em><\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There has been so much of interest related to the historical Jesus and the Gospels recently that a collection of links with a few quotes and discussions seemed in order. 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