{"id":6093,"date":"2012-02-05T15:07:26","date_gmt":"2012-02-05T20:07:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/?p=6093"},"modified":"2012-02-05T15:07:26","modified_gmt":"2012-02-05T20:07:26","slug":"funny-mythicist-quote-of-the-day-neil-godfrey","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2012\/02\/funny-mythicist-quote-of-the-day-neil-godfrey.html","title":{"rendered":"Funny Mythicist Quote of the Day (Neil Godfrey)"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u201cRecently one theologian who teaches an undergraduate historical Jesus class recommended to me two works on historiographical methods. When I quoted back to him key sections that contradicted the most fundamental processes of historical Jesus scholars he was enraged. I was misrepresenting them. It turned out that he was the one who had simply failed to grasp the clear, black and white points that these texts made about the need for establishing provenance and external controls \u2014 and that as a consequence the whole historical Jesus model of these scholars rests on circularity and mere assumption that there was a historical Jesus to study at all. This pitfall does not face the historical studies in other areas of history simply because historians have long established their foundations with documentary resources that are grounded in the stability of known provenance and external controls.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right\"><a href=\"http:\/\/vridar.wordpress.com\/2012\/02\/05\/hypocritical-christ-mythers-camerons-response-to-neil-godfrey-at-vridar-my-response-back\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Neil Godfrey, in a post entitled \u201cHypocritical Christ-mythers: <\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right\"><a href=\"http:\/\/vridar.wordpress.com\/2012\/02\/05\/hypocritical-christ-mythers-camerons-response-to-neil-godfrey-at-vridar-my-response-back\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Cameron\u2019s response to Neil Godfrey at Vridar \u2014 &amp; my response\u00a0back\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>I thought that regular readers of this blog <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2012\/01\/mythicism-as-conspiracy-theory.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">would get a kick out of this<\/a>. It is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2012\/02\/paul-mythicism.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">stuff like this<\/a> that has forced me to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2012\/01\/mythicism-as-selectively-critical-the-example-of-couchouds-treatment-of-john-the-baptist.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">give up on attempting to interact with Neil Godfrey<\/a> as though he were a sane\/honest individual who knows how to interact with other human beings. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2012\/01\/more-mythicist-misrepresentation.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Those who have actually read the exchange he is referring to<\/a>, however, may enjoy reflecting on the vast differences between <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2012\/01\/more-mythicist-misrepresentation.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">what actually transpired<\/a>, and Godfrey\u2019s representation of it on his own blog.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cRecently one theologian who teaches an undergraduate historical Jesus class recommended to me two works on historiographical methods. When I quoted back to him key sections that contradicted the most fundamental processes of historical Jesus scholars he was enraged. I was misrepresenting them. It turned out that he was the one who had simply failed [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":136,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[42,64],"tags":[4871,6678,7853,7999],"class_list":["post-6093","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-humor","category-mythicism","tag-humor","tag-lol","tag-mythicism","tag-neil-godfrey"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Funny Mythicist Quote of the Day (Neil Godfrey)<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"&quot;Recently one theologian who teaches an undergraduate historical Jesus class recommended to me two works on historiographical methods. 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