{"id":62221,"date":"2019-05-08T04:43:54","date_gmt":"2019-05-08T08:43:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/?p=62221"},"modified":"2019-05-08T06:59:47","modified_gmt":"2019-05-08T10:59:47","slug":"religionprof-podcast-with-brian-wesoloski-part-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2019\/05\/religionprof-podcast-with-brian-wesoloski-part-1.html","title":{"rendered":"ReligionProf Podcast with Brian Wesolowski, Part 1"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

\ufeff<\/span><\/iframe><\/p>\nAs <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2019\/04\/technology-and-grace.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">promised<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/anchor.fm\/religionprof\/episodes\/Episode-37-with-Brian-Wesolowski-e3rbnp\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">here in this week\u2019s ReligionProf Podcast is the conversation (actually, for today, just the first half of the conversation)<\/a> between me and <a href=\"https:\/\/cdt.org\/about\/staff\/brian-wesolowski\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Brian Wesolowski<\/a> about technology as mediator of grace. I thoroughly enjoyed the conversation, and as always, I found it not only an opportunity to express thoughts I already had, but an opportunity to clarify my thoughts and think creatively as I was prompted and provoked to by questions and thoughts that Brian shared. We recorded this conversation primarily so that he could use snippets of it in a project that he is working on as part of his <a href=\"https:\/\/gracefully.tech\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cGracefully Tech\u201d<\/a> endeavor. But we thought that it might also be useful to share the complete recording of the conversation between the two of us.<\/p>\nOf related interest:<\/p>\nTake a look at the <a href=\"https:\/\/library.educause.edu\/resources\/2019\/4\/2019-horizon-report\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">2019 Horizon Report<\/a> on technology in education.<\/p>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.poandpo.com\/in-the-meantime\/kenyan-innovator-invents-smart-hand-gloves-which-turn-sign-language-into-audio-speech-1412019959.amp\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Kenyan innovator creates glove that can turn sign language into audible speech<\/a>.<\/p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/experimentaltheology.blogspot.com\/2019\/01\/the-software-of-dehumanization.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Software of dehumanization<\/a><\/p>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.edge.org\/conversation\/ian_mcewan-machines-like-me\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ian McEwan, \u201cMachines Like Me\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.3quarksdaily.com\/3quarksdaily\/2019\/04\/the-digital-divide-when-even-the-beggars-need-smartphones.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cThe Digital Divide: When Even Beggars Need Smartphones.\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.christiancentury.org\/review\/books\/christian-humanism-technocratic-world\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Christian Humanism in a Technocratic World<\/a><\/p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/readingreligion.org\/books\/digital-existence\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Review of\u00a0Digital Existence<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.scientificamerican.com\/observations\/the-humanities-and-the-future\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Humanities and the Future<\/a><\/p>\nIn New Scientist<\/em>, articles about AI:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.newscientist.com\/article\/2193361-ai-can-diagnose-childhood-illnesses-better-than-some-doctors\/?utm_campaign=RSS%7CNSNS&utm_source=NSNS&utm_medium=RSS&utm_content=news\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">AI diagnoses outpacing those of human doctors<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.newscientist.com\/article\/2200718-robotic-tube-for-surgery-autonomously-navigates-inside-a-beating-heart\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">performing surgery<\/a>, b<a href=\"https:\/\/www.newscientist.com\/article\/2198325-teslas-autopilot-tricked-into-driving-on-the-wrong-side-of-the-road\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">eing tricked to drive on the wrong side of the road<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.newscientist.com\/article\/2197941-driverless-car-learns-to-perform-high-speed-turns-without-crashing\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">making high-speed turns without crashing<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.newscientist.com\/article\/2198333-ai-achieves-its-best-ever-mark-on-a-set-of-english-exam-questions\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">taking English exams<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.newscientist.com\/article\/2200264-ai-that-spots-inequality-could-monitor-living-conditions-in-cities\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">monitoring human living conditions for inequities<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.newscientist.com\/article\/2200683-mind-reading-device-uses-ai-to-turn-brainwaves-into-audible-speech\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">turning thoughts into audible speech<\/a>. They also had <a href=\"https:\/\/www.newscientist.com\/article\/mg24232282-900-how-hacked-rental-e-scooters-could-be-the-future-of-street-crime\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">an article about the future of crime in an increasingly networked world<\/a>.<\/p>\nA <a href=\"https:\/\/www.technologyreview.com\/s\/612913\/a-philosopher-argues-that-an-ai-can-never-be-an-artist\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">philosopher argued that an AI can never be an artist<\/a>, but <a href=\"https:\/\/techxplore.com\/news\/2019-03-method-ancient-coin-images.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">AI proves useful in studying images on ancient coins<\/a>\u00a0and <a href=\"https:\/\/archaeologynewsnetwork.blogspot.com\/2019\/03\/artificial-intelligence-for-study-of.html#7Iw74GVjzMGqYgd3.97\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">archaeological sites<\/a>, as well as <a href=\"https:\/\/science.nasa.gov\/earth-science\/applied-sciences\/making-space-for-earth\/5-questions-with-viral-shah\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">earth science<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/archaeologynewsnetwork.blogspot.com\/2019\/05\/exploring-3d-technology-in-pottery.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+TheArchaeologyNewsNetwork+(The+Archaeology+News+Network)#g18AslsLMwhLLBLW.97\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">3D scanning<\/a> is another technology that has great potential in conjunction with AI.<\/p>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.newyorker.com\/magazine\/2019\/05\/13\/science-fiction-doesnt-have-to-be-dystopian?fbclid=IwAR04-rDVsRPh66sH_AIkXB6q2c1TzMbcpQHBOoOl8KSsP924gIQ91JkawFQ\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Science fiction doesn\u2019t have to be dystopian<\/a><\/p>\nFrom Inside Higher Ed<\/em>:<\/p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.insidehighered.com\/views\/2019\/03\/22\/scott-mclemee-discusses-two-books-our-networked-society-opinion\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Scott McLemee discussed two books on our networked society<\/a><\/p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.insidehighered.com\/blogs\/technology-and-learning\/higher-ed-and-big-nine%E2%80%99\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Higher Ed and The Big Nine<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.insidehighered.com\/news\/2019\/03\/15\/debate-over-using-artificial-intelligence-college-debate\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Debates about the place of AI in higher ed<\/a><\/p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.insidehighered.com\/quicktakes\/2019\/03\/12\/colleges-build-network-ethical-tech\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ethical tech network<\/a><\/p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.insidehighered.com\/views\/2019\/03\/12\/colleges-must-develop-interdisciplinary-training-future-technology-and-public\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Interdisciplinary training and future technology<\/a><\/p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.insidehighered.com\/blogs\/just-visiting\/knewton-gone-larger-threat-remains\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">An update about Knewton<\/a><\/p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.insidehighered.com\/blogs\/student-affairs-and-technology\/maybe-universities-shouldnt-be-putting-amazon-echos-student\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">On putting Amazon Echoes in student dorms<\/a><\/p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.insidehighered.com\/blogs\/library-babel-fish\/age-surveillance-capitalism-mixed-review\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Surveillance capitalism<\/a><\/p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/speculativefaith.lorehaven.com\/where-are-the-hard-science-fiction-writers-who-are-christians\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Speculative Faith asked where the Christian authors of hard science fiction are<\/a><\/p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/learningaloud.com\/blog\/2019\/04\/30\/equipping-adolescents-for-the-flawed-world-of-social-media\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Equipping adolescents to navigate the world of social media<\/a><\/p>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.1843magazine.com\/features\/deepmind-and-google-the-battle-to-control-artificial-intelligence\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The battle to control the future of artificial intelligence<\/a><\/p>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/erlc.com\/resource-library\/statements\/artificial-intelligence-an-evangelical-statement-of-principles\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">There was an Evangelical statement about AI<\/a><\/p>\nhttps:\/\/friendlyatheist.patheos.com\/2019\/04\/18\/no-sexbots-allowed-say-evangelicals-in-statement-on-artificial-intelligence-2\/<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"OldxuQLYg3\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/anxiousbench\/2019\/04\/religious-history-internet\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">The Religious History of the Internet<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cThe Religious History of the Internet\u201d \u2014 Anxious Bench\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/anxiousbench\/2019\/04\/religious-history-internet\/embed\/#?secret=lfEF0Uze3X#?secret=OldxuQLYg3\" data-secret=\"OldxuQLYg3\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\nIf you haven\u2019t yet discovered this Patheos blog, you should:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"62sEpRieHR\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/digitalwisdom\/2019\/04\/what-could-possibly-go-right\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cWhat Could Possibly Go Right?\u201d<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201c\u201cWhat Could Possibly Go Right?\u201d\u201d \u2014 Digital Wisdom\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/digitalwisdom\/2019\/04\/what-could-possibly-go-right\/embed\/#?secret=DfreL8YCit#?secret=62sEpRieHR\" data-secret=\"62sEpRieHR\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"V2S0LFjw9f\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/digitalwisdom\/2019\/04\/the-possibilities-of-ai-ethics\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">The Possibilities of AI Ethics<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cThe Possibilities of AI Ethics\u201d \u2014 Digital Wisdom\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/digitalwisdom\/2019\/04\/the-possibilities-of-ai-ethics\/embed\/#?secret=b9DrVRIN9r#?secret=V2S0LFjw9f\" data-secret=\"V2S0LFjw9f\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"WB1343y8DC\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/digitalwisdom\/2019\/03\/the-limits-of-digital-ethics\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">The Limits of Digital Ethics<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cThe Limits of Digital Ethics\u201d \u2014 Digital Wisdom\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/digitalwisdom\/2019\/03\/the-limits-of-digital-ethics\/embed\/#?secret=4OZyc1lRRK#?secret=WB1343y8DC\" data-secret=\"WB1343y8DC\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"fhKyfsS4A3\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/digitalwisdom\/2019\/04\/digital-reformation-consider-the-library\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Digital Reformation? Consider the Library<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cDigital Reformation? Consider the Library\u201d \u2014 Digital Wisdom\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/digitalwisdom\/2019\/04\/digital-reformation-consider-the-library\/embed\/#?secret=yaIfHfbhL2#?secret=fhKyfsS4A3\" data-secret=\"fhKyfsS4A3\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\nFrom The Tech Edvocate:<\/p>\nhttps:\/\/www.thetechedvocate.org\/we-need-emotional-intelligence-with-our-edtech\/<\/p>\nhttp:\/\/www.thetechedvocate.org\/machine-learning-examples-in-education-an-inside-look-at-3-success-stories\/<\/p>\nhttp:\/\/www.thetechedvocate.org\/3-ways-artificial-intelligence-amplifies-innovation\/<\/p>\nhttp:\/\/www.thetechedvocate.org\/using-ai-to-personalize-education-for-everyone\/<\/p>\nhttp:\/\/www.thetechedvocate.org\/your-next-tutor-may-be-a-digital-voice-assistant\/<\/p>\nhttp:\/\/www.thetechedvocate.org\/it-is-time-for-the-edtech-industry-to-stop-denying-its-equity-and-race-problem\/<\/p>\nhttps:\/\/www.thetechedvocate.org\/schools-are-turning-to-virtual-doctors-for-sick-kids\/<\/p>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theminimalists.com\/podcast\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Minimalists Podcast<\/a> explores the topic of the recent book <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/2UR0mcz\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Digital Minimalism<\/em><\/a>. The book was also the focus of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2019\/04\/08\/smarter-living\/digital-addiction-getting-you-down-try-an-analog-cure.html?emc=edit_th_190429&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=213735350429\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">an article in the New York Times<\/a>.<\/p>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.joemygod.com\/2019\/04\/christian-site-5g-technology-will-bring-the-antichrist\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">A Christian site predicts that 5G will bring the Antichrist<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"SK4h1y6yqC\"><a href=\"https:\/\/3quarksdaily.com\/3quarksdaily\/2019\/05\/nick-bostrom-and-others-debate-artificial-intelligence.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Nick Bostrom and others debate Artificial Intelligence<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cNick Bostrom and others debate Artificial Intelligence\u201d \u2014 3 Quarks Daily\" src=\"https:\/\/3quarksdaily.com\/3quarksdaily\/2019\/05\/nick-bostrom-and-others-debate-artificial-intelligence.html\/embed#?secret=Ja1NjP9DOa#?secret=SK4h1y6yqC\" data-secret=\"SK4h1y6yqC\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\ufeff As promised, here in this week\u2019s ReligionProf Podcast is the conversation (actually, for today, just the first half of the conversation) between me and Brian Wesolowski about technology as mediator of grace. 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