{"id":7587,"date":"2012-05-01T07:17:04","date_gmt":"2012-05-01T11:17:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/?p=7587"},"modified":"2012-05-01T07:17:04","modified_gmt":"2012-05-01T11:17:04","slug":"teach-the-other-controversy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2012\/05\/teach-the-other-controversy.html","title":{"rendered":"Teach the Other Controversy"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/i.imgur.com\/WBcce.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"614\" height=\"384\"><\/p>\n<p>This is not poking fun at beliefs about creation \u2013 we all get to a point where we either posit something that simply is, or say something not all that different from \u201cIt\u2019s turtles all the way down.\u201d But those who advocate \u201cteaching the controversy\u201d or \u201cteaching both sides\u201d rarely actually want that to happen. How many people who say that kids should hear \u201cboth sides\u201d when it comes to mainstream science (in which, in fact, however many sides there may be, young-earth creationism and other similar deceptions are not among them) would in fact stand up for equal time for a competing creation narrative, or for atheist views being shared alongside Christian ones in some context or other?<\/p>\n<p><strong>The problem with \u201cteach the controversy\u201d is that it is only introduced where there isn\u2019t genuine controversy, by people who don\u2019t actually want views opposing their own to be given \u201cequal time.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is not poking fun at beliefs about creation \u2013 we all get to a point where we either posit something that simply is, or say something not all that different from \u201cIt\u2019s turtles all the way down.\u201d But those who advocate \u201cteaching the controversy\u201d or \u201cteaching both sides\u201d rarely actually want that to happen. 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