{"id":8324,"date":"2012-07-10T11:51:26","date_gmt":"2012-07-10T15:51:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/?p=8324"},"modified":"2012-07-10T11:51:26","modified_gmt":"2012-07-10T15:51:26","slug":"conversations-around-the-blogosphere-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2012\/07\/conversations-around-the-blogosphere-3.html","title":{"rendered":"Conversations around the Blogosphere"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>There are several posts around the blogosphere related to topics of conversation here, some of which interact directly with things I\u2019ve written.<\/p>\n<p>First, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/2012\/07\/10\/golden-rule-jokes-and-porpoise-costumes\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Fred Clark offers a helpful response to the \u201canatomically-correct porpoise fetish\u201d objection to the sufficiency of the Golden Rule as a moral principle<\/a>. The key is to understand it not in a legalistic fashion \u2013 which of course is antithetical to the whole spirit of the principle !- but as inviting us not merely to inflict on others what we enjoy, but to ask what they enjoy just as we hope others would do in our own case.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/onlyagame.typepad.com\/only_a_game\/2012\/07\/unmarriage.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+onlyagame+%28Only+a+Game%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Over at Only a Game, Chris Batemann addresses marriage, unmarriage, and same-sex relationships<\/a>. Here is a sample:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Unlike many conservatives, I support gay marriage, because unlike most liberals I support the institution of marriage. When two adults are willing, in the face of the infinite mystery and uncertainty of existence, to make a commitment to one another founded upon their mutual love, we should support them and help them celebrate it publically. It should not matter what flesh those two souls inhabit if their love is genuine. It is a bigger injustice to force such lovers to remain unwillingly in unmarriage than to allow them to marry, whatever their respective genders.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/onlyagame.typepad.com\/only_a_game\/2012\/07\/unmarriage.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+onlyagame+%28Only+a+Game%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Click through to read the whole thing<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>On the subject of mythicism, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bibleinterp.com\/articles\/tho368005.shtml#c5t_form\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Thomas L. Thompson and I have managed to get a conversation started in the comments section of his recent\u00a0<em>Bible and Interpretation<\/em> article<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/craig-s-keener\/jesus-existed_b_1652435.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Craig Keener wrote a piece for the <em>Huffington Post<\/em> on the existence of the historical Jesus<\/a>. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.allanbevere.com\/2012\/07\/myth-of-mythical-jesus.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+allanbevere%2FROss+%28Allan+R.+Bevere%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Several<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/unsettledchristianity.com\/2012\/07\/jesus-existed-oh\/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+unsettledchristianityblog+%28Unsettled+Christianity%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">other<\/a> bloggers have mentioned it, including <a href=\"http:\/\/thebiblicalworld.blogspot.com\/2012\/07\/yes-virginia-there-really-was-jesus.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">John Byron at slightly more length<\/a> that others.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/rjosephhoffmann.wordpress.com\/2012\/07\/07\/on-not-explaining-born-of-a-woman\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Joseph Hoffmann<\/a> responded to <a href=\"http:\/\/vridar.wordpress.com\/2012\/07\/07\/hoffmanns-mamzer-jesus-solution-to-pauls-born-of-a-woman\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Neil Godfrey<\/a> about Paul\u2019s language about Jesus having been \u201cborn of a woman.\u201d The <a href=\"http:\/\/unsettledchristianity.com\/2012\/07\/joe-hoffmann-for-president\/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+unsettledchristianityblog+%28Unsettled+Christianity%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">simplest explanation<\/a> is still that Paul was merely saying about Jesus something that could be said about any human being.<\/p>\n<p>See too <a href=\"http:\/\/otagosh.blogspot.com\/2012\/07\/detering-troxel-borg.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">the discussion of Paul-mythicism at Otagosh<\/a>. UPDATE: <a href=\"http:\/\/otagosh.blogspot.com\/2012\/07\/deterred-from-detering.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">See what happens, including a well-placed sci-fi metaphor, when Gavin read further into Detering\u2019s book<\/a>!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.stufffundieslike.com\/2012\/07\/the-cause\/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+StuffFundiesLike+%28Stuff+Fundies+Like%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Stuff Fundies Like pointed out that fundamentalism can survive without many things, but not without a cause<\/a> \u2013 an enemy to focus its ire on. This led to some <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/2012\/07\/05\/if-you-believe-the-logos-man-on-the-moon\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">comments by Fred Clark<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/2012\/07\/03\/a-request-re-tubal-cain-the-iron-age-and-transparent-aluminum\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Fred also notes that there is a glaring anachronism in Genesis 4, where Tubal-Cain is said to have originated the technology of working with bronze and iron<\/a>. Of course, the transition to the iron age only comes about after Israel has emerged in the land of Canaan. And so this story in its present form is not more ancient than that.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There are several posts around the blogosphere related to topics of conversation here, some of which interact directly with things I\u2019ve written. 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