{"id":92888,"date":"2021-12-22T05:45:19","date_gmt":"2021-12-22T10:45:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/?p=92888"},"modified":"2021-12-19T05:55:38","modified_gmt":"2021-12-19T10:55:38","slug":"a-baptist-source-in-luke","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2021\/12\/a-baptist-source-in-luke.html","title":{"rendered":"A Baptist Source in Luke?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Luke\u2019s Gospel is distinctive in many ways, but particularly noteworthy is its account of the infancy of John the Baptist. Indeed, the Gospel of Luke tells us a great deal more than the other Synoptics about John and his followers, and all that material stands out in some way.\u00a0Luke drops the depiction of John as an oddly-dressed hermit and makes him more clearly an itinerant activist throughout the region of the Jordan River. Luke elaborates on John\u2019s ethical teaching concerning matters of social and economic justice.\u00a0Then in Acts we get a depiction of ongoing groups of John\u2019s followers far from the location in which his activity is set.<\/p>\n<p>Surely it is not a coincidence that all of this has parallels in Mandaean literature. Martin Dibelius (and a handful of others since) raised the possibility that the Gospel of Luke might have drawn on a \u201cBaptist\u201d source. That possibility deserves to be revisited, and I\u2019m looking forward to doing that soon. Whether you think it likely that the author of the Gospel of Luke used a written source stemming from the circle around John, oral information from that same source, or his own imagination, the question needs to be answered as to\u00a0<em>why<\/em> this author would focus so much attention on John. What\u2019s your answer to that question? Have you heard any suggestion that seems more plausible or otherwise preferable than that there was an ongoing movement focused on John and Luke was connected with it in some way?<\/p>\n<p>When I dive into writing my book(s) on John the Baptist, one possibility that I\u2019ll explore is that John was from Galilee. Neither the fact that Luke has Mary visit Elizabeth in \u201cthe hill country of Judaea\u201d nor the fact that Mandaean sources say that John was born in Jerusalem is decisive any more than Matthew and Luke\u2019s efforts to have Jesus\u00a0<em>of Nazareth<\/em> somehow be born in Bethlehem. <a href=\"https:\/\/johntsquires.com\/2021\/12\/19\/questions-about-christmas-interrogating-the-biblical-story-1\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">John Squires<\/a> discusses that last point (among other things) in this recent blog post:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"Zs1GiyudYc\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/johntsquires.com\/2021\/12\/19\/questions-about-christmas-interrogating-the-biblical-story-1\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Questions about Christmas: interrogating the biblical story\u00a01<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cQuestions about Christmas: interrogating the biblical story\u00a01\u201d \u2014 An Informed Faith\" src=\"https:\/\/johntsquires.com\/2021\/12\/19\/questions-about-christmas-interrogating-the-biblical-story-1\/embed\/#?secret=hVbdVXyUQK#?secret=Zs1GiyudYc\" data-secret=\"Zs1GiyudYc\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Also of related interest:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.artic.edu\/collection?q=panel&amp;categoryQuery=di+Paolo&amp;artist_ids=Giovanni+di+Paolo\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Art by Giovanni di Paolo depicting John the Baptist is currently on exhibit at the Art Institute of Chicago<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"eOaJrc3sZc\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/johntsquires.com\/2021\/11\/29\/to-give-knowledge-of-salvation-lukes-portrayal-of-john-the-baptiser-luke-3-advent-2c\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cTo give knowledge of salvation\u201d: Luke\u2019s portrayal of John the baptiser (Luke 3; Advent\u00a02C)<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201c\u201cTo give knowledge of salvation\u201d: Luke\u2019s portrayal of John the baptiser (Luke 3; Advent\u00a02C)\u201d \u2014 An Informed Faith\" src=\"https:\/\/johntsquires.com\/2021\/11\/29\/to-give-knowledge-of-salvation-lukes-portrayal-of-john-the-baptiser-luke-3-advent-2c\/embed\/#?secret=wEzUEsIIAE#?secret=eOaJrc3sZc\" data-secret=\"eOaJrc3sZc\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"m2FPxY4zSp\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/johntsquires.com\/2021\/12\/06\/the-call-for-ethical-faithful-living-luke-3-advent-c\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">John the baptiser\u2019s call for ethical, faithful living (Luke 3; Advent\u00a03C)<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; 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