{"id":97178,"date":"2024-09-26T21:49:18","date_gmt":"2024-09-27T01:49:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/?p=97178"},"modified":"2024-09-26T21:49:18","modified_gmt":"2024-09-27T01:49:18","slug":"dune-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2024\/09\/dune-part-2.html","title":{"rendered":"Dune Part 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>I finally got to see Dune Part 2 in IMAX a while back and I thoroughly enjoyed it, although it may have helped that it has been a number of years since I read the novel. Having read all of Frank Herbert\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/religionprof\/2020\/08\/from-dune-to-wakanda.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Dune<\/a> novels, and also having seen both the first incomprehensible Dune movie as well as the compelling miniseries, I found this to be more impressive and powerful than both.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/gizmodo.com\/dune-part-two-box-office-500-million-1851342992\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">This movie<\/a> (according to interviews with the director) seeks to make clear something that even Frank Herbert himself recognized was ambiguous in his first novel. Paul Atreides is being described by some as a villain, and I feel that goes too far. He is far better than a heroic messianic figure or an evil eager despot in the new film. He is a complex human being, shaped and influenced by circumstances, faced with hard choices, who makes some that are questionable. That he does so even after having a glimpse of the horrors of war that will follow doesn\u2019t make him more of a monster than any of us could be. And that is what makes the story of Dune so relevant in our time, almost 60 years after the publication of the <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3vG6QUt\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">novel<\/a>. I highly recommend reading the novels, which are by no means rendered superfluous by the movies. They go into depth and detail on some characters that no movie ever could, and reading them in conjunction with the movie will help you see how much they are a product of their time and the movie is a product of its time.<\/p>\n<p>The main question I have after watching the movie is whether this scene was crafted with Monty Python explicitly in mind.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-97283\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/719\/2024\/04\/Im-not-the-Mahdi-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"768\" height=\"543\"><\/p>\n<p>Don\u2019t stop reading without at least scrolling to the end to see some more hilarious Dune memes. I could probably teach a course on religion and science fiction every year, cycling between novels, film, television, and short stories on a regular rotation. There is so much interesting material to discuss and reflect on, and out of all sci-fi it must be said that Frank Herbert\u2019s Dune series engages with religion much more directly and much more interestingly than the majority of other works and franchises. Wouldn\u2019t you agree?<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"3N1g5xN7M7\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/religionnews.com\/2024\/03\/11\/why-dune-2-does-not-get-religion\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u2018Dune 2\u2019 portrays the danger of mixing religion and politics. It doesn\u2019t know the half of it.<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201c\u2018Dune 2\u2019 portrays the danger of mixing religion and politics. It doesn\u2019t know the half of it.\u201d \u2014 RNS\" src=\"https:\/\/religionnews.com\/2024\/03\/11\/why-dune-2-does-not-get-religion\/embed\/#?secret=deoSL6MBP7#?secret=3N1g5xN7M7\" data-secret=\"3N1g5xN7M7\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/sojo.net\/articles\/paul-atreides-dune-messiah-figure-and-villain\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Dune in Sojourners<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/sojo.net\/articles\/dune-part-two-unmasks-danger-prophecies\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Danger of Prophecies in Dune 2<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/laurarbnsn.substack.com\/p\/does-denis-villaneuve-understand\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Laura Robinson on female characters in Dune<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/laurarbnsn.substack.com\/p\/the-gospel-coalition-watched-dune\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Laura Robinson on the Gospel Coalition and Dune<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/winteriscoming.net\/posts\/denis-villeneuve-explains-why-chani-in-dune-part-two-is-different-from-the-book-01hr5a7vs0by\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Denis Villeneuve on why Chani is different from the books in Dune 2<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.latimes.com\/entertainment-arts\/movies\/story\/2024-03-05\/dune-part-two-lady-jessica-bene-gesserit-rebecca-ferguson-alia\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Bene Gesserit<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.themarysue.com\/stilgar-has-become-one-of-the-internets-favorite-dune-2-memes\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Stillgar Memes<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.juancole.com\/2024\/03\/techno-orientalism-intergalactic.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Techno-Orientalism<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.wired.com\/2024\/03\/geeks-guide-dune-part-two\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Geek\u2019s Guide to Dune Part 2<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/spotlight\/women-in-sci-fi\/rg2296027904\/mediaviewer\/rm386353921\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Women in Science Fiction<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"88yFXhu2XH\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/bibleandculture\/2024\/02\/29\/dune-2-an-epic-of-epic-proportions\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Dune 2\u2013 An Epic of Epic Proportions<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cDune 2\u2013 An Epic of Epic Proportions\u201d \u2014 The Bible and Culture\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/bibleandculture\/2024\/02\/29\/dune-2-an-epic-of-epic-proportions\/embed\/#?secret=RGfktnvFx9#?secret=88yFXhu2XH\" data-secret=\"88yFXhu2XH\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"x9kYmRy5hl\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/religionnews.com\/2024\/03\/11\/why-dune-2-does-not-get-religion\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u2018Dune 2\u2019 portrays the danger of mixing religion and politics. It doesn\u2019t know the half of it.<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201c\u2018Dune 2\u2019 portrays the danger of mixing religion and politics. It doesn\u2019t know the half of it.\u201d \u2014 RNS\" src=\"https:\/\/religionnews.com\/2024\/03\/11\/why-dune-2-does-not-get-religion\/embed\/#?secret=wIWUN7xupk#?secret=x9kYmRy5hl\" data-secret=\"x9kYmRy5hl\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbr.com\/dune-religion-fremen-bene-gesserit-explained\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Dune Religion: The Fremen and the Bene Gesserit Explained<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/gizmodo.com\/how-make-sandworm-scenes-in-dune-2-denis-villeneuve-wb-1851345846\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Making of the Sandworm Scenes<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/gizmodo.com\/timothee-chalamet-warner-bros-dune-3-wonka-2-first-look-1851366807\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Looking ahead to Dune 3<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Also related:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"WyWZWQOGB2\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.alternateending.com\/2024\/03\/frank-herberts-dune-2000.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Frank Herbert\u2019s Dune (2000)<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cFrank Herbert\u2019s Dune (2000)\u201d \u2014 Alternate Ending\" src=\"https:\/\/www.alternateending.com\/2024\/03\/frank-herberts-dune-2000.html\/embed#?secret=352qRrIlj9#?secret=WyWZWQOGB2\" data-secret=\"WyWZWQOGB2\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"dqoHOWVcDc\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.alternateending.com\/blog\/sects-lies-and-videotape-dune-part-one-villeneuve-2021-and-part-two-2024\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Sects, Lies, and Videotape: Dune: Part One (Villeneuve, 2021) and Part Two (2024)<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cSects, Lies, and Videotape: Dune: Part One (Villeneuve, 2021) and Part Two (2024)\u201d \u2014 Alternate Ending\" src=\"https:\/\/www.alternateending.com\/blog\/sects-lies-and-videotape-dune-part-one-villeneuve-2021-and-part-two-2024\/embed#?secret=GtrLEkqjfn#?secret=dqoHOWVcDc\" data-secret=\"dqoHOWVcDc\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Finally, there have been some hilarious Dune memes\u2026<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-97184\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/719\/2024\/03\/To-Me-You-Are-Lisan-Al-Gaib-scaled.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"768\" height=\"378\"><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-97187\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/719\/2024\/03\/Bernie-Sanders-Dune.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"705\" height=\"618\"><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I finally got to see Dune Part 2 in IMAX a while back and I thoroughly enjoyed it, although it may have helped that it has been a number of years since I read the novel. 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