{"id":2775,"date":"2014-07-07T23:41:48","date_gmt":"2014-07-08T03:41:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/revangelical\/?p=2775"},"modified":"2014-10-24T18:47:10","modified_gmt":"2014-10-24T22:47:10","slug":"living-as-functional-atheists","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/revangelical\/2014\/07\/07\/living-as-functional-atheists.html","title":{"rendered":"Living As Functional Atheists"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><em>Guest Post by <strong>Duane Beachey<\/strong><\/em>, Author <em>Reading the Bible As If Jesus Mattered<\/em><br>\nI read Sam Harris\u2019 book,<em> Letter to a Christian Nation<\/em>. Harris is among contemporary atheists who have authored books to convince people of <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"irc_mi\" class=\"alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/ageoftruth.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/Chris-Hitchens-9.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"194\" height=\"157\">atheist beliefs. It\u2019s an interesting book. He\u2019s right about some things. I\u2019d have to say that I couldn\u2019t believe in some of the descriptions of God he offers either. He highlights the worst abuses of people of faith and blames the religion itself for those abuses. He points out Christians who burned heretics at the stake and Muslims who are terrorists then says both were actually taking their sacred texts literally. Therefore religion itself is the problem.<\/p>\n<p>Indeed he is right that when people of any religion use their religion to justify crusades or inquisitions or terrorism, the results are atrocities. Harris correctly emphasizes that much of what we\u2019ve done in the name of Christianity (and Islam) hasn\u2019t been very loving or kind.<\/p>\n<p>Indeed as has often been pointed out, if we took literally biblical commands from the God of the Old Testament, we would still be stoning disobedient children, the adulterous, and the infidel. But Christians today, and Jews for that matter, are pretty much unanimous in rejecting such punishments. We don\u2019t feel such biblical mandates should still be practiced.<\/p>\n<p>That leaves us with the problem of how to understand these passages from our shared spiritual past. Were the early Israelites misguided? Was theirs the normal justice of an earlier time? Was God stricter under Torah law than under grace? Was their view of God incomplete and imperfect? Or were they just plain wrong about what God wanted?<\/p>\n<p>These questions of how to understand our Scriptures go to the heart of our faith understandings, which is why disagreements about Scripture are some of the most difficult and divisive. I\u2019ll say more in a later chapter about how we understand Scripture.<\/p>\n<p>Muslims also disagree on how to understand similar harsh punishments in the Koran. Like Christians and Jews, many Muslims today do not believe such punishments should still be carried out\u2014though it seems more Muslims than Christians or Jews still embrace the harsh penalties prescribed in <em>sharia<\/em> law based on their Scriptures.<\/p>\n<p>Much of Sam Harris\u2019 argument is still the original philosophical standoff that says you can\u2019t <em>prove<\/em> God exists and the counter argument that you can\u2019t prove God <em>doesn\u2019t<\/em> exist. While Christians may look at the complexity and beauty of creation and see that as proof of God\u2019s existence, Harris looks at all the tragedy and disease in the natural world and sees those as proof that a loving God could never have designed such a brutal unfeeling universe.<\/p>\n<p>Some of Harris\u2019 critiques of Christianity need to be taken seriously. I think he points out some of the problems with the religious beliefs we have attached to Christianity. In an interview with Sam Harris and Rick Warren in the April 9, 2007 <em>Newsweek<\/em>, Harris asks how it is fair \u201cto have created a [religious] system where belief is the crucial piece, rather than being a good person?\u201d Rick Warren doesn\u2019t contest this characterization of Christianity (p. 63). In fact, Jesus insists that belief or confession of him as Lord, without obedience to his teaching, is useless.<\/p>\n<p>I thought Harris had some interesting observations about belief and unbelief. He makes the point that <em>most<\/em> of us are atheists and non-believers\u2014in relation to the faith of other people. Christians don\u2019t look at the Koran and believe it is God\u2019s Word at all. Most would believe it is just a book written by Mohammad; it may contain some wisdom and truth but also passages we would take issue with. Most Christians would feel the same way about the wisdom of Buddha or the Book of Mormon. We don\u2019t believe God inspired them at all and may wonder how anyone could.<\/p>\n<p>In the same way Muslims are atheists in relation to much of the New Testament. They may also claim Abraham as their father and see the Torah but not much of the New Testament as revealed Word. They may well claim Jesus as a messenger from God who preceded Mohammad, but they don\u2019t see passages about Jesus as Son of God or his death and resurrection as God\u2019s Word at all.<\/p>\n<p>I was speaking to a Muslim at an interfaith dialogue and was surprised when he said, \u201cAs Jesus himself once said, . . . \u201d and proceeded to quote Jesus saying something I\u2019d never heard in my life. Turns out it was a quote from the Koran which says that Jesus said those words. I don\u2019t remember at all what he said but do recall wondering why anyone would go to the Koran for quotes from Jesus. Of course the reason is obvious; we each have different sources of authority. He believed the Koran has authority, and I believe the Bible does.<\/p>\n<p>While Sam Harris may be right that most of us don\u2019t believe the scriptures of the other, he didn\u2019t convince me that there is therefore no true religion, no authoritative book, and no God. I\u2019m sure he also hasn\u2019t convinced many Muslims of that, or <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/mormonism' target='_blank'>Mormons<\/a>, Buddhists, or Hindus either. We are not easily moved from our beliefs, especially our religious beliefs. Those things we believe to be ultimately true are often the most unshakeable. It takes a lot to pry us loose enough even to question our beliefs, let alone change them. For the apostle Paul it took a blinding light and the voice of Jesus to change what he was absolutely sure he was right about.<\/p>\n<p>And here is why I am hopeful that some of us may consider rethinking our faith understandings. I believe we Christians agree on the centrality of Christ to the Christian faith. The central belief of the Christian faith is that the transcendent God is made known to us most fully in Jesus who lived and taught among us\u2014who we heard and saw with our own eyes, and who our hands have touched (1 John 1:1). The One who is beyond all seeing and knowing has become visible and is made known in Jesus the Christ:<\/p>\n<p>The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. (Col. 1:15-17)<\/p>\n<p>Everything fits together in Jesus alone. Nothing trumps Jesus. All that I am and have\u2014all my belongings, all my relationships, all my beliefs, my philosophies, my politics, and especially my understanding of God and the Bible\u2014all are subservient to Jesus. All kings and governing authorities are subservient to him. The Christian confession of the early church, \u201cJesus is Lord,\u201d stood in direct opposition to Rome\u2019s claim, \u201cCaesar is Lord.\u201d Paul is clear that we can pledge no other allegiance nor have any higher authority, because <em>everything<\/em> else is subservient to Jesus.<\/p>\n<p>We can only truly understand the words of Scripture in light of the words of Jesus. But over and over Christians explain Jesus in light of some other part of the Bible. Or we just allow our \u201ccommon sense\u201d\u2014the world\u2019s wisdom\u2014to convince us we can\u2019t possibly do what Jesus says or that he didn\u2019t mean what he taught in any way that actually applies to our current situation.<\/p>\n<p><strong>This post is an excerpt from Duane Beacheys new book <em>Reading the Bible As If Jesus Mattered. <\/em>To read more, order his book today by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Reading-Bible-As-Jesus-Mattered\/dp\/1931038996\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">clicking here. <\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">\u201cReading the Bible as if Jesus Mattered is one of the most accessible and powerful manifestos on what it means to be a faithful, biblically grounded disciple of Jesus that I have ever read. Beachey approaches the Scriptures with Jesus as his interpretive lens and paints a stunning picture of what true Christianity should look like. This book is a must read for all followers of Christ, no matter where you fall on the theological spectrum, and will inspire you to commit yourself again to the way of Jesus, the liberating Prince of Peace.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>\u2013Brandan Robertson, founder, The Revangelical Movement, <em><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Endorsement from Book Cover <\/em><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Guest Post by Duane Beachey, Author Reading the Bible As If Jesus Mattered I read Sam Harris\u2019 book, Letter to a Christian Nation. Harris is among contemporary atheists who have authored books to convince people of atheist beliefs. It\u2019s an interesting book. He\u2019s right about some things. 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