{"id":5356,"date":"2016-12-07T18:05:21","date_gmt":"2016-12-07T23:05:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/rhetoricraceandreligion\/?p=5356"},"modified":"2016-12-07T18:05:21","modified_gmt":"2016-12-07T23:05:21","slug":"5356","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/rhetoricraceandreligion\/2016\/12\/5356.html","title":{"rendered":"Trevor Noah and False Notions of Understanding"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/543\/2016\/12\/Truth-and-Lies-spin.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-5357\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-5357\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/543\/2016\/12\/Truth-and-Lies-spin-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"Truth-and-Lies-spin\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\"><\/a>by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/rhetoricraceandreligion\/2016\/08\/welcome-to-r3-matthew-vega.html#\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">Matt Vega<\/a><\/p>\n<p>I wish white liberals would stop telling us the election of Trump signals how \u201cinsulated,\u201d \u201ctone deaf,\u201d and \u201cpolarized\u201d we actually are.<\/p>\n<p>Were we shocked by dude\u2019s election?<\/p>\n<p>Kind of. But not because we weren\u2019t aware that a large number of folks supported Trump. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by over 2.5 million votes. It\u2019s not like we were shocked for \u201cno apparent reason.\u201d We (PoC) weren\u2019t shocked because we\u2019ve lived in some \u201cinsular bubble\u201d where we didn\u2019t know how white folks reason and think. That logic is so weak. If you are a PoC and you live in America, you\u2019re not surprised by the slickness of racism, the logic of racists, the stereotypes you have to defy, and the bubbles we live in. You live in it. Watch it on the news. Hear it at work. See it in your teachers. We swim in it.<\/p>\n<p>Stop trying to analyze us. What you\u2019re basically telling us is to compromise with racists. And no, sorry sir- we are NOT going to do it. Not now. Not ever.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s my biggest beef with Trevor Noah\u2019s interview with Tomi Lahren. She has nothing new or substantive to contribute to serious issues in this country related to race besides tired lies of American exceptionalism and meritocracy. It\u2019s played out. I\u2019ve heard it before. I\u2019ve tried being gracious to understand it before. It\u2019s just straight up wrong and I\u2019m tired of y\u2019all telling us there\u2019s something inherently good about considering these as legitimate as other narratives.<\/p>\n<p>We are entering into a Post-truth world. Donald Trump makes up facts, doesn\u2019t need to corroborate them, and gets defended by his supporters and surrogates. There\u2019s a pastor at Wheaton who flippantly dismissed CNN, HuffPost, and MSNBC as illegitimate sources of media. Now, don\u2019t get me wrong- I have my own views on these, but to throw away anything non-conservative as fictitious isn\u2019t a good starting point for fair and honest dialogue. It\u2019s a recipe for naive support to fascism.<\/p>\n<p>We have to detox from this notion that truth lies somewhere in between irrationality and reason. That we have to live \u201cin the middle\u201d of both of these worlds to \u201cget it.\u201d All of us think we stand in the middle of two existing spheres, not realizing how bent we actually are. Truth doesn\u2019t compromise with ignorance, injustice, nor deception. It remains unequivocally faithful to itself.<\/p>\n<p>So, no. I don\u2019t find it inherently good to try and reason with fascists and their supporters. I find it mentally and emotionally harmful.<\/p>\n<p>Do all of us a favor, \u201callies\u201d:<\/p>\n<p>Have your virtuous dialogues with Lahren, Bannon, Trump, Coulter and others. Then stay there. Please don\u2019t come back.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><b>Donate to the Work of R3<\/b><\/p>\n<div>\n<p><em>Like the work we do at Rhetoric Race and Religion? 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Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by over [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":5357,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[158],"tags":[830,839,306,838,30],"class_list":["post-5356","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-guest-contributions","tag-2016-election","tag-compromise","tag-donald-trump","tag-matt-vega","tag-racism"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Trevor Noah and False Notions of Understanding<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Should PoC compromise and try to understand those who mean them harm?\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" 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