{"id":775,"date":"2014-04-09T11:35:00","date_gmt":"2014-04-09T11:35:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/rhetoricraceandreligion\/2014\/04\/history-vs-theology-examine-and-understand-their-starting-points.html"},"modified":"2014-04-09T11:35:00","modified_gmt":"2014-04-09T11:35:00","slug":"history-vs-theology-examine-and-understand-their-starting-points","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/rhetoricraceandreligion\/2014\/04\/history-vs-theology-examine-and-understand-their-starting-points.html","title":{"rendered":"History vs. Theology: Examine and Understand Their Starting Points"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, Times New Roman, serif\">by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/rhetoricraceandreligion\/2012\/10\/frequent-blogger-crystal-st-marie-lewis.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">Crystal Lewis<\/a><br>R3 Contributor<\/span><\/p>\n<p>First Posted at the<a href=\"http:\/\/crystalstmarielewis.com\/2014\/04\/08\/history-vs-theology-examine-and-understand-the-starting-point\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"> Crystal St. Marie Lewis Blog<\/a><\/p>\n<p>NPR published a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.npr.org\/2014\/04\/07\/300246095\/if-jesus-never-called-himself-god-how-did-he-become-one\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">great interview<\/a> with Bart Ehrman\u2013 the well-known professor who has written a new book about the historical occurrences leading to the deification of Jesus in Christianity. Early in his talk with the reporter, Dr. Ehrman said something that is worth noting, particularly in a rapidly secularizing culture that continues to find itself at odds with religion.<\/p>\n<p>When asked if a historian can comment on whether the resurrection truly happened, Ehrman explained that resurrections, virgin births and the like are theological matters. Questions about \u201ctruth\u201d as it relates to these matters are for theologians to answer\u2013 and many of them have done so in great philosophical detail. However, for the historian, the question is not, \u201cIs it true?\u201d but rather, \u201cCan we prove or document it?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>As Ehrman points out, the historian\u2019s work requires him or her to collect and catalog documentation of an event\u2019s occurrence, while a theologian can theoretically suspend the requirement for proof and instead permit faith and\/or tradition to be enough. The historian\u2019s burden of proof is why Ehrman must conclude that the resurrection and virgin birth were not historical events.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/crystalstmarielewis.com\/2013\/07\/31\/on-christian-fundamentalisms-ongoing-effort-to-win-custody-of-jesus\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Reza Aslan tried to explain<\/a> the historian\u2019s responsibility to a befuddled (and even at times belligerent) Fox News interviewer last summer. He attempted to communicate that historians are expected to cite evidence for their claims, and that such evidence rarely points to the miraculous. However, in many cases, the theologian\u2019s audience (if the theologian is beholden to a confessional academic institution or religious organization) may expect him or her to preserve the integrity of a certain faith position. The historian can freely conclude that Christianity\u2019s virgin birth account was written to compete with other contemporary myths\u2013 but  the theologian may feel religiously committed, or even professionally pressured, to conclude that the virgin birth was written in order to record that Jesus was literally a god.<\/p>\n<p>Ehrman is saying (as my <a href=\"http:\/\/mackenzian.com\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">friend and colleague<\/a> in the blogosphere once told me) that the starting point is what matters most. Those who start from a position of faith will likely stick close to their path, fearing that a step beyond its boundaries could bring about their own social, emotional or even professional peril. Those who start from a position of critical examination will explore freely, welcoming conclusions that may make some uncomfortable.<\/p>\n<p>I listened to Ehrman\u2019s interview today and wondered how often we really consider thestarting points of our conversation partners. Do we understand that History and Theology start from different positions? Do we fully understand that any fruitful conversation between these positions will require each party to communicate as people of differing language backgrounds might communicate? Do we understand  our own starting points and the biases they present? How does this change our understanding of religious debates in the modern public sphere?<\/p>\n<p>The Ehrman interview is interesting for a variety of reasons, but I found this tidbit about what I\u2019ve termed our \u201cstarting points\u201d most thought-provoking. I encourage you to listen to the NPR recording. I plan to buy the book when it\u2019s released. I\u2019m sure there will be plenty more to write about while reading it.<\/p>\n<p>Follow Crystal on twitter <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/CrystalLewis\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">@crystallewis<\/a><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>by Crystal LewisR3 Contributor First Posted at the Crystal St. Marie Lewis Blog NPR published a great interview with Bart Ehrman\u2013 the well-known professor who has written a new book about the historical occurrences leading to the deification of Jesus in Christianity. 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