{"id":4651,"date":"2017-03-14T07:50:35","date_gmt":"2017-03-14T12:50:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/rogereolson\/?p=4651"},"modified":"2017-07-31T09:31:05","modified_gmt":"2017-07-31T14:31:05","slug":"follow-blog-post-transgender-controversy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/rogereolson\/2017\/03\/follow-blog-post-transgender-controversy\/","title":{"rendered":"Follow Up to My Blog Post about the Transgender Controversy"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Follow Up to My Blog Post about the Transgender Controversy<\/p>\n<p>My most recent blog post here was about the contemporary controversy over the use of locker rooms and restrooms by people transitioning from one gender or sex to another. Please do NOT read this follow up post without first reading the immediately preceding one; especially do not comment on this one without first reading that one.<\/p>\n<p>Normally I include in my blog posts some caveats, some disclaimers, some warnings\u2014to avoid confusion and responses that are inappropriate for this blog. This blog is on the Evangelical platform of Patheos; I am an evangelical Christian. However, as anyone who knows me or had read this blog (or some of my books) knows, I am not a \u201ctypical\u201d evangelical whatever that means. I do not fit the media-promoted stereotype of an \u201cevangelical.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I will leave it at that for the moment because my only point is to say\u2014Do not make assumptions about me or about my views on social, political or even theological issues on the basis of some preconceived stereotype of \u201cevangelical.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Before continuing, let me say a couple of things by way of guidance in case you wish to comment here. First, I do not speak for anyone but myself. Second, this blog is not a discussion board; it a space for me to present my opinions\u2014which are sometimes nothing more than musings at the moment\u2014and read <em>constructive<\/em> thoughts about them from others. Third, I will not post to this blog\u2014in the moderated comment section\u2014responses that are hostile, crude, uncivil, etc. Responses only get posted here if they conform to the \u201cmanners\u201d of this blog which are guided by civility and constructive dialogue. Fourth, and finally, I will not post to this blog comments, responses, that include images or hyperlinks.<\/p>\n<p>Now to my follow up \u201cfootnote\u201d to my immediately preceding post about the transgender controversy which you must have read before responding to this one\u2026<\/p>\n<p>I want to respond here, now, to those commenters who defend the right of transgender persons who are <em>not<\/em> transsexual (that distinction is explained in my previous blog post) to use the public restroom and locker room of their choice.<\/p>\n<p>My question to them is simply this: <em>Why not abolish sex differentiated restrooms and locker rooms altogether?<\/em> It seems to me the logical next step <em>if<\/em> and <em>insofar as<\/em> persons are permitted by policy and\/or law to use the facilities that <em>do not<\/em> correspond with their sexual physiology.<\/p>\n<p>What other reason is there for having sex-differentiated restrooms and locker rooms than to protect especially females (and I would say especially young females) from being exposed to naked male bodies?<\/p>\n<p>I suspect, although I cannot speak for every male person, that most men and even most boys would not be offended or feel in any way threatened or violated by seeing a naked female body in a restroom or locker room. I also suspect, however, although I cannot speak for every female person, that most especially younger females (teenagers) <em>would<\/em> feel offended, threatened and possibly violated by being (especially alone) in a restroom or locker room with a naked male body.<\/p>\n<p>I tend not to take what people say about this very seriously unless they are 1) female, 2) male with a young daughter or granddaughter, or 3) a person part of whose responsibility it is to monitor use of restrooms or locker rooms in a capacity as teacher or security person.<\/p>\n<p>I realize and understand how indelicate my language here is, but I have no prurient interest in using it. My only interest is in bringing the <em>point<\/em> of the controversy out of the shadows and making it clear.<\/p>\n<p>So let me be clearer still. I have nothing against transgender persons as such. I do not support or condone any type of persecution aimed at them as individuals or as a class. On the other hand, were I a father (for example) of a twelve year old daughter, I would want to be confident that she would not be exposed to a naked male body when she uses a restroom or locker room. And I would suspect that any male person, whatever his\/her status may be with regard to \u201ctransgendering\u201d (it wouldn\u2019t even concern me in this instance), being naked\u2014partially or fully\u2014in her restroom or locker room is an exhibitionist. How is a parent or teacher or security person supposed to know what a person\u2019s reasons are if\/when they appear partially or fully naked in the restroom or locker room that is not designated for his sex?<\/p>\n<p>You may think this is not a real life scenario, but it is. I have read news reports of especially boys and young men attempting to use the restroom or locker room designated for girls or women and defending their action on the basis that they are \u201ctransgendering.\u201d Recently, near where I live, a teacher\u2019s aide was accused by a \u201cboy transitioning to girl\u201d of being insensitive because she attempted to stop him from using the girls and women\u2019s restroom in a public school. Much sympathy, of course, is poured out for the transgender boy\/girl. But what about the teacher\u2019s aide? What is she supposed to do? If the boy transitioning to girl has male physiology, genitals, would the parents of the girls want him\/her using the restroom designated for their daughters? And what about the lone girl who might be in that restroom or locker room?<\/p>\n<p>Please don\u2019t tell me it doesn\u2019t matter because the girls\u2019 restroom has stalls because the next step in this would be, of course, his\/her use of the girls\u2019 locker room.<\/p>\n<p>So, my point here is simply this: Let\u2019s top talking about this controversy in vague generalities and be very clear and specific about it. To those who advocate transgender persons\u2019 right to use whatever restroom and locker room they prefer I ask <em>why not do away entirely with sex-specific designated restrooms and locker rooms<\/em>? To those who advocate transgender persons\u2019 right to use whatever restroom and locker room they prefer I ask how ought a teacher or security person distinguish between a transgender person with male physiology and an exhibitionist?<\/p>\n<p>Again, use this blog only constructively; stick to the issue raised; strictly avoid hostile and accusatory (inflammatory) responses; do not include in your comment any hyperlinks or images. Also, finally, keep your comment brief. I do not have time to read lengthy essays here.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Follow Up to My Blog Post about the Transgender Controversy My most recent blog post here was about the contemporary controversy over the use of locker rooms and restrooms by people transitioning from one gender or sex to another. 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