{"id":7673,"date":"2021-07-05T19:22:24","date_gmt":"2021-07-06T00:22:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/rogereolson\/?p=7673"},"modified":"2021-07-05T19:22:24","modified_gmt":"2021-07-06T00:22:24","slug":"there-is-no-such-thing-as-the-church","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/rogereolson\/2021\/07\/there-is-no-such-thing-as-the-church\/","title":{"rendered":"There Is No Such Thing as &#8220;The Church&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>There Is No Such Thing as \u201cThe Church\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/21\/2017\/01\/photo-1461829576572-c5fc8ed06ae9_opt.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-4436\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/21\/2017\/01\/photo-1461829576572-c5fc8ed06ae9_opt.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"314\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here I set aside for purposes of this essay the concept of \u201cinvisible, universal Body of Christ\u201d\u2014the ideal collective of all true Christians (and any other saved persons) throughout time. Here I write only about churches visible (and usually institutional) on earth in particular times and places.<\/p>\n<p>Over the years I have heard many people, including people who should know better (e.g., Christian theologians and religion scholars) talking about \u201cthe church\u201d \u2013 referring to the collective of Christians alive right now. For example, I recently listened to a podcast in which a scholar of American religion referred repeatedly to \u201cthe American church.\u201d Clearly, given the context, she meant all the Christian churches existing and functioning in America right now\u2014visibly and at least somewhat institutionally.<\/p>\n<p>No such thing exists.<\/p>\n<p><em>*Sidebar: The opinions expressed here are my own (or those of the guest writer); I do not speak for any other person, group or organization; nor do I imply that the opinions expressed here reflect those of any other person, group or organization unless I say so specifically. Before commenting read the entire post and the \u201cNote to commenters\u201d at its end.*<\/em><\/p>\n<p>There is no \u201cthe American church.\u201d Nor is there any \u201cthe evangelical church.\u201d Nor is there any \u201cthe Baptist church.\u201d I have heard all these phrases used\u2014by people who should know better including journalists of religion, scholars of religion, theologians, etc.<\/p>\n<p>There exists \u201cthe Catholic Church\u201d because it is a denomination (at least from my Protestant perspective). But that is not what any of these people have meant. Instead, they were clearly referring to all Christian churches of all denominations but lumping them together as \u201cthe American church.\u201d Or they were referring to all Baptist churches of all kinds but lumping them together as \u201cthe Baptist church.\u201d Or they were referring to all evangelical churches of all kinds but lumping them together as \u201cthe evangelical church.\u201d This is what is called the \u201creifying fallacy\u201d \u2013 treating something abstract and non-existent as if it actually exists. They should know better.<\/p>\n<p>My plea to them is to not lump us all together. I am an American Christian but I do not want my church lumped together with all other American Christian churches as part of \u201cthe American church.\u201d There are \u201cAmerican churches\u201d and they are extremely diverse. Very little can be said that is true of all of them. They certainly cannot be blamed or accused or described as the same in any other way than that they all claim to be Christian churches.<\/p>\n<p>The usual way this reifying fallacy appears is that the person writing or speaking accuses \u201cthe American church\u201d of being such-and-such (legalistic, out of touch, old fashioned, irrelevant, whatever). Usually I can discern that the person writing or speaking is thinking of a particular <em>brand<\/em> of American churches such as \u201cfundamentalist churches,\u201d but even then there are far too many and their differences are too great to lump them all together. There is no \u201cthe American fundamentalist church.\u201d Most fundamentalist churches emphasize being \u201cunaffiliated.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Why no \u201cthe Baptist church?\u201d Because, and anyone who knows anything about Baptists should know this, there are about fifty-seven varieties of Baptists in America and many of them will have nothing to do with others. For example, just to offer a couple of shocking examples, there are \u201cSpiritual Baptists.\u201d Look them up on Youtube and watch their services. Most other Baptists will have nothing to do with them because of their inclusion of mediumship, divination, clairvoyance, etc. In the hollows of the Appalachian Mountains there are \u201cNo Heller\u201d Baptists \u2013 Baptist churches that do not believe in hell. Read <em>In the Hands of a Happy God<\/em>, a book about them. Most other Baptists will have nothing to do with them. There are Baptist churches that are hardly distinguishable from Unitarians. There are <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/pentecostal' target='_blank'>Pentecostal<\/a> Baptists.<\/p>\n<p>Why can\u2019t someone lump all Baptists together as \u201cthe Baptist church?\u201d The answer should be obvious. There is no headquarters of all Baptists. There is no connective tissue of any kind holding Baptist churches together. Even Baptist denominations, usually called \u201cconventions\u201d or \u201cconferences,\u201d are only voluntary associations of individual, autonomous congregations with no hierarchy over them. So even the Southern Baptist Convention is not a \u201cchurch.\u201d It is a collective of individual, autonomous churches.<\/p>\n<p>So, there is no \u201cthe American church.\u201d There are only \u201cAmerican churches.\u201d There is no \u201cthe church;\u201d there are only \u201cchurches.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Why does this matter? Because often when I hear or read \u201cthe American church\u201d or \u201cthe evangelical church in America\u201d I feel lumped together with people with whom I share almost nothing in common. People claim that \u201cthe American church\u201d is losing members. No it isn\u2019t, because there is no \u201cthe American church.\u201d A person could say \u201cAmerican churches are losing members\u201d but even then they would be wrong unless they specified which American churches they mean. Some are most certainly <em>not<\/em> losing members.<\/p>\n<p>In fact, so I believe, what is really happening is that new expressions of Christianity are popping up that are flying \u201cunder the radar\u201d of critics who claim \u201cthe American churches\u201d are losing members. People are flocking from many of the old, so-called \u201cmainline\u201d churches and many are attending new collective expressions of Christianity that may or may not be called \u201cchurches.\u201d Throughout the South and Midwest thousands of \u201ccowboy churches\u201d are popping up. Most of them do not belong to any denomination or are only very loosely affiliated with, for example, a local Baptist association of churches. There are literally thousands of immigrant churches that are hardly noticed by the bean-counters. For example, the Redeemed Christian Church of God of Nigeria has at least seven hundred congregations in the U.S. I am told that many of these congregations are large and growing not only through immigration but also through evangelism and people leaving other churches to attend these.<\/p>\n<p>Many commentators on American Christianity are only observing the emptying pews of traditional churches and saying \u201cthe American church\u201d is shrinking. First, there is no \u201cthe American church.\u201d Second, there are many American churches they know nothing about.<\/p>\n<p>Now, I have learned from hard experience that I need to head off potential objections to what I write here. One inevitable one will be this: Someone will say \u201cBut you (Roger Olson) are not taking into account the statistics drawn from polls asking people about their religious affiliations. According to the polls the \u201cnones\u201d are increasing and the \u201cchurch members and attenders\u201d are decreasing. My response is that I am suspicious of all polls until and unless I know exactly what questions they asked and how they interpreted the responses. As a scholar with a Ph.D. in religious studies who has studied American religious life (especially Christianity in all its expressions) for many years, I know that these questions are often crafted by people who simply do not understand religious people\u2019s self-identifying languages. For example: If someone asked me if I attend \u201cchurch\u201d regularly I <em>might<\/em> think \u201cO, well, \u2018church\u2019 isn\u2019t exactly what we call our gathering\u201d or \u201cO, well, \u2018church\u2019 is kind of a negative word right now\u201d and say \u201cno\u201d when, in fact, I do have fellowship with other Christians on a regular basis. That\u2019s just one example. Another might be \u201creligious.\u201d \u201cDo you consider yourself \u2018religious\u2019?\u201d is a tricky question\u2014even for many Christians. Like many American (and other) evangelicals, I grew up hearing the clich\u00e9 \u201cChristianity is not a religion; it is a relationship.\u201d So I <em>might<\/em> say I\u2019m not \u201creligious\u201d when, in fact, I am\u2014by sociology standards.<\/p>\n<p><em>*Note to commenters:<\/em> This blog is not a discussion board; please respond with a question or comment only to me. If you do not share my evangelical Christian perspective (very broadly defined), feel free to ask a question for clarification, but know that this is not a space for debating incommensurate perspectives\/worldviews. In any case, know that there is no guarantee that your question or comment will be posted by the moderator or answered by the writer. If you hope for your question or comment to appear here and be answered or responded to, make sure it is civil, respectful, and \u201con topic.\u201d Do not comment if you have not read the entire post and do not misrepresent what it says. Keep any comment (including questions) to minimal length; do not post essays, sermons or testimonies here. Do not post links to internet sites here. This is a space for expressions of the blogger\u2019s (or guest writers\u2019) opinions and constructive dialogue among evangelical Christians (very broadly defined).<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There Is No Such Thing as \u201cThe Church\u201d Here I set aside for purposes of this essay the concept of \u201cinvisible, universal Body of Christ\u201d\u2014the ideal collective of all true Christians (and any other saved persons) throughout time. Here I write only about churches visible (and usually institutional) on earth in particular times and places. 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