{"id":47869,"date":"2021-08-31T21:38:15","date_gmt":"2021-09-01T03:38:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/rolltodisbelieve\/?p=47869"},"modified":"2021-08-31T22:39:15","modified_gmt":"2021-09-01T04:39:15","slug":"grace-chapel-megachurch-a-mutiny-of-their-own","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/rolltodisbelieve\/2021\/08\/31\/grace-chapel-megachurch-a-mutiny-of-their-own\/","title":{"rendered":"Grace Chapel Megachurch: A Mutiny of Their Own"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Hi and welcome back! <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/rolltodisbelieve\/2021\/08\/29\/megapastor-todd-elliott-and-the-church-mutiny\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">The other day<\/span><\/a>, we checked out a megachurch facing a mutiny. Not to be outdone, <em>another<\/em> megachurch has decided to air out its own extremely-dirty laundry. <a href=\"https:\/\/religionnews.com\/2021\/08\/30\/services-at-tennessee-governor-church-disrupted-by-megachurch-pastor-feud-steve-berger-grace-chapel-wife-conspiracy\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">During Sunday services<\/span><\/a> a couple of days ago, Sarah Berger, the wife of Grace Chapel\u2019s former <del>high priest<\/del> lead pastor, Steve Berger, grabbed the mic to rant at length about how her husband had been hard-done-by in the change in leadership. In her rant, though, Sarah Berger said something that really caught my eye. <strong>Today, let me show you how an authoritarian leader pulls rank to force compliance from followers.<\/strong><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_47876\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-47876\" style=\"width: 600px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/541\/2021\/08\/one-broken-egg-in-a-carton-grace-chapel-bad-eggs-steve-berger-sarah-rob-rogers.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-47876\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/541\/2021\/08\/one-broken-egg-in-a-carton-grace-chapel-bad-eggs-steve-berger-sarah-rob-rogers.jpg\" alt=\"bad eggs or the usual norm?\" width=\"600\" height=\"318\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-47876\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">(<a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/unkle_cheese\/2861610026\/in\/photolist-9hZG8f-5mSuXU-mwY4fv-ahrfHe-o7Emwu\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Jimmy Jim Jim Shabadoo<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-sa\/2.0\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">CC-SA<\/a>.) Watch out. Cheesecake ingredients charge when wounded. And they can smell fear.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h2>Grace Chapel: A Spirit of Disorder.<\/h2>\n<p>This was a mess, and we may never really understand exactly what kind of disgusting hypocrisy Grace Chapel is caught up in.\u00a0<em><a href=\"https:\/\/friendlyatheist.patheos.com\/2021\/08\/29\/woman-calls-out-pastor-during-church-service-for-trying-to-cancel-her-husband\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Friendly Atheist<\/span><\/a>\u00a0<\/em>put together some extremely unsettling information about one of the dramas they\u2019re trying to keep quiet. I definitely recommend checking it out if you want more info. (I\u2019ve no time here, but it is\u00a0<em>whoa.<\/em>)<\/p>\n<p>Even without that situation to consider, this is some serious drama.<\/p>\n<p>Behold:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/gracechapel.net\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Grace Chapel<\/span><\/a>, a Tennessee megachurch, has long been known for its conservative posturing. Its founder, Steve Berger, ruled that roost with his wife Sarah. Heck, even the governor of the state attended that church! Double heck, Steve Berger even delivered the invocation of that governor!<\/p>\n<p>You can see Berger in all his squinched-up, preacher-eyebrowed glory <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tennessean.com\/story\/news\/religion\/2021\/01\/20\/steve-berger-transitioning-senior-pastor-role-grace-chapel\/4211635001\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><em>rahhht cheer<\/em><\/span><\/a>. And you can enjoy a look at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.memphisflyer.com\/a-look-at-bill-lees-uber-conservative-home-church\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">his crybullying false-victim-mentality here<\/span><\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>As for the church itself, Grace Chapel is <em>huge<\/em>, with the usual multiple locations and slick website we expect. As we saw with the megachurch from last time, it\u2019s not easy to drill down to exactly what they believe, <a href=\"https:\/\/gracechapel.net\/about\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">but eventually we discover<\/span><\/a> they\u2019re the usual culture-warrior bigots we expect. According to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tennessean.com\/story\/news\/religion\/2016\/03\/25\/10-largest-churches-nashville-area\/82278508\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">this news site\u2019s writeup<\/span><\/a>, they\u2019re a member of the Calvary Churches denomination. But they say they\u2019re non-denominational.<\/p>\n<p><em>(Sure, Jan.)<\/em><\/p>\n<h2>How Steve Berger Lost Grace Chapel.<\/h2>\n<p>About six months ago, Steve Berger got into some\u00a0<em>serious\u00a0<\/em>trouble. He\u2019d gotten himself tangled up with the insurrectionists who tried to destroy our government on January 6th. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tennessean.com\/story\/news\/religion\/2021\/01\/20\/steve-berger-transitioning-senior-pastor-role-grace-chapel\/4211635001\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">He claims<\/span><\/a> he had nothing to do with the attempted overthrow. However, he did share rumors that antifa forces were responsible. (In reality, the Capitol attack was largely the doing of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/rolltodisbelieve\/2021\/01\/06\/the-capitol-attack-and-evangelical-leaders-reactions-to-it\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">QAnon-addled white evangelicals<\/span><\/a>. When evangelicals realized the coup had failed, many of the cowards turned tail to try to claim <em>it wasn\u2019t them at all<\/em>.)<\/p>\n<p>His church seems to have been quite divided over how to deal with their pastor getting caught up in this lunacy. I even caught wind of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.change.org\/p\/the-community-of-franklin-demand-the-firing-of-pastor-steve-burger-at-grace-chapel-in-franklin-tn\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">a Change.org petition<\/span><\/a> demanding his firing. As of now, it\u2019s sitting at 1594 signatures. The creator of the petition, Sofia Noel, references a \u201c25 minute long video posted on January 6th\u201d in which Berger apologizes, but, she says, refuses to take responsibility for his behavior. (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.wsmv.com\/news\/governor-lees-pastor-apologizes-for-his-account-of-dc-riots\/article_24a3a080-5156-11eb-9f75-371cdbbda8bd.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">It\u2019s referenced here<\/span><\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p>One of the signers, Gracen Hill, claims Berger was once her pastor \u2014 but that she left Grace Chapel after Berger\u2019s preaching shifted to \u201chell fire reigning down.\u201d Another signer, Christine Fekete, notes that her friends \u201chave suffered emotional and spiritual abuse by this man\u2019s \u2018teaching\u2019.\u201d She warns ominously, \u201cHe is a clear and present danger to the community.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Somewhere in all of that, Grace Chapel hired a new pastor, Rob Rogers. <\/strong><strong>(Rogers, incidentally, claims to be an ex-heroin addict cured magically by Jesus. Too bad Jesus doesn\u2019t give a sloppy wet slap about the other <a href=\"https:\/\/www.drugabuse.gov\/drug-topics\/trends-statistics\/overdose-death-rates#:~:text=Overdose%20deaths%20involving%20heroin%20decreased,with%2016%2C167%20deaths%20in%202019.\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">50k-ish overdoses<\/span><\/a> every year.) <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>I can see why Grace Chapel thought they needed this second-hand boost in Jesus Power.<\/strong><\/p>\n<h2>Grace Chapel and the Awful No Good Terrible Transition of Power.<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.tennessean.com\/story\/news\/religion\/2021\/01\/20\/steve-berger-transitioning-senior-pastor-role-grace-chapel\/4211635001\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">In the news writeup of his leaving<\/span><\/a>, Steve Berger declared on January 20 for realsies that he totally wasn\u2019t \u201cquitting, retiring, leaving, abandoning, we\u2019re not running the other direction because of recent conflict.\u201d Really! No, it was the\u00a0<em>opposite!<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Afterward, Berger loped off to Washington, DC. There, he started <a href=\"https:\/\/steveberger.org\/asi\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">some kind of coaching business<\/span><\/a> aimed at <del>brainwashing<\/del> training future Congresscritters to be TRUE CHRISTIAN\u2122 culture warriors. Considering he\u2019s accused of being in cahoots with out-and-out treasonous domestic terrorists, it\u2019s a striking new gig. Their webpage writeup is creeptastic and smarmy as all get-out too.<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t think it\u2019s doing very well, though, because apparently Berger <em>still<\/em> can\u2019t keep his paws off Grace Chapel. The news writeup indicated that he planned to run services there once a month and \u201cadvise the church\u2019s leadership team.\u201d It also sounds strongly like the former ruling couple intended to meddle in the church\u2019s social business after handing the reins to the new guy.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>What I describe here is always really bad news for authoritarian groups.\u00a0<\/em>Authoritarian groups can have only one master. They fall apart in infighting and backbiting when two people try to run things as equals.<\/strong><\/p>\n<h2>Why the Grace Chapel Transition Stumbled.<\/h2>\n<p>New authoritarian leaders tend to resent being told how to run things, and the former ones always bristle when someone changes anything they used to do. I\u2019ve been there myself, I\u2019m afraid, though at the time I didn\u2019t realize my group was authoritarian.<\/p>\n<p>(I also trip on stuff in plain sight. Dad nicknamed me \u201cFlutterbudget\u201d for a reason. It\u2019s beyond comical how bad my real-world perception can be when I\u2019m not paying attention. So, I try to be gentle on myself for not realizing I kept getting into groups that leaned authoritarian cuz that\u2019s what was most comfortable for me back then. You do the same if you\u2019re there with me, okay?)<\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"https:\/\/religionnews.com\/2021\/08\/30\/services-at-tennessee-governor-church-disrupted-by-megachurch-pastor-feud-steve-berger-grace-chapel-wife-conspiracy\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Religion News<\/span><\/a>\u00a0<\/em>tells us that indeed, the Grace Chapel transition was not going well. The two pastors found themselves at loggerheads as the weeks crawled past. Rob Rogers says he \u201cpushed too hard and fast,\u201d causing Berger to become offended and skeptical of the new guy. And Berger\u2019s reactions, in turn, sound like they were anything but meek and humble, loving and peacemaking.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Their conflict got so bad that both Rob Rogers and the church\u2019s executive pastor, Mark Bright, <em>offered to just resign<\/em>. And remember, this was months after Berger officially faffed off to DC to run his (ahem) <em>ministry<\/em>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>And then, this happened:<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<h2>The Grace Chapel Showdown.<\/h2>\n<p>Holy cow, this was amazing.<\/p>\n<p>Okay. So on August 29, Grace Chapel was having its usual Sunday morning services. Blah, blah, blah. Big performance, singing, lights, etc. They were also livestreaming.<\/p>\n<p>At some point, Rob Rogers took the mic to apologize to the church because of his ongoing fight with Steve Berger. The restive congregation got a little rowdy, with one person demanding prayers of repentance (it\u2019s not clear who they thought needed to do this).<\/p>\n<p>Right after that demand, Berger\u2019s wife, Sarah, grabbed a mic, got on the stage herself, and began yelling at Rogers. She claimed he needed to repent \u201cfor sinning against my husband.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In addition, Sarah Berger ranted about how hard-done-by she thought her husband was in the transition and said she and her husband now planned to leave Grace Chapel for good, <em>look what you made me do!<\/em><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/3tmd-ClpJxA\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><br>\n<i>Obligatory.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><strong>Eventually, someone in A\/V realized what was happening and cut the stream. But someone filmed the last bit of Sarah Berger\u2019s rant before the livestream ended. I thank Saint Dymphna for <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Saint__Dymphna\/status\/1432009133545463813?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1432009133545463813%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&amp;ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ffriendlyatheist.patheos.com%2F2021%2F08%2F29%2Fwoman-calls-out-pastor-during-church-service-for-trying-to-cancel-her-husband%2F\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">providing her footage<\/span><\/a> on Twitter.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<h2>Video Clip Technicals.<\/h2>\n<p>Here\u2019s the video:<\/p>\n<div style=\"width: 1280px;\" class=\"wp-video\"><!--[if lt IE 9]><script>document.createElement('video');<\/script><![endif]-->\n<video class=\"wp-video-shortcode\" id=\"video-47869-1\" width=\"1280\" height=\"592\" preload=\"metadata\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"video\/mp4\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/541\/2021\/08\/3c33Gm6PWShZEYLj.mp4?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/541\/2021\/08\/3c33Gm6PWShZEYLj.mp4\">https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/541\/2021\/08\/3c33Gm6PWShZEYLj.mp4<\/a><\/video><\/div>\n<p>Again, many thanks to the Tweeter who provided this, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Saint__Dymphna\/status\/1432009133545463813?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1432009133545463813%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&amp;ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ffriendlyatheist.patheos.com%2F2021%2F08%2F29%2Fwoman-calls-out-pastor-during-church-service-for-trying-to-cancel-her-husband%2F\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Saint Dymphna<\/span><\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The label across the video reads \u201cLive 1:02:53.\u201d So this probably happened just before the preaching started, but after the worship music and money collection\/church schedule announcement stuff.<\/p>\n<p>Church services run a bit like that old story from\u00a0<em><a href=\"https:\/\/smartovercoat.files.wordpress.com\/2007\/07\/blog_0707_bloomcounty_jagger_lb.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Bloom County<\/span><\/a>\u00a0<\/em>where the Rolling Stones showed up to play the local elementary school\u2019s dance. Between the first and last acts (music\/business being first and preaching last), a lot of evangelical churches allow for testimonies or other such impromptu guest speaking. I can easily imagine Grace Chapel was in the habit of handing mics to audience members to gush about stuff or ask for prayers.<\/p>\n<p><strong>This time, oh boy, oh boy, did we <em>ever<\/em> get some impromptu speaking. Betcha they revisit that policy now!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t think anybody\u2019s transcribed this short but <em>meaty<\/em> rant (and wow, there\u2019s an adjective I\u2019ll just never use again). So, I wanted to do it. See, this lady says something early on that really, really, <em>really<\/em> grabbed my attention. Guess what it was!<\/p>\n<h2>Transcription of the Sarah Berger Rant:<\/h2>\n<p>[Transmission begins midway through a sentence. Sarah Berger is a middle-aged blonde lady dressed informally in a long green tunic and jeans. She starts her speech in the audience seats, probably where she was sitting.]<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u2014 of this transition, it has been made manifestly evident that there\u2019s been an endeavor to cancel the founding pastor of Grace Chapel. That might not mean something to those of you that have only been here for 8 months. But I would expect those of you that are listening to this right now would hear what I say.<\/p>\n<p>[Interesting: a dark-haired woman gets up from behind Sarah Berger and walks away, her hands to her face. You can see her in the thumbnail to Berger\u2019s left, looking up at her.]<\/p>\n<p>Do I have any authority in this place after 26 years? Do I have <em>any<\/em> authority? [Cheers and yells from audience.]<\/p>\n<p>Let me just tell you. [Starts walking onto the stage to scattered applause.] There is no way we can remain in this congregation knowing that at the very helm Rob Rogers and Mark Bright have been working behind the scenes to literally cancel us.<\/p>\n<p>The tipping point was not when Mark Bright resigned, you guys. The tipping point was when a maligning letter went out from [and she points to her left here] Rob Rogers and Mark Bright to all of the elders and the financial board maligning my husband as being a Christian extremist. [She points outward.] That is the truth. You need to know the truth \u2014<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>[Transmission ends. Sudden loud bright jangly Christian worship instrumental-type music.]<\/p>\n<h2>\u201cDo I Have Any Authority?\u201d<\/h2>\n<p>Did you catch what I did? Yes. Early on, Sarah Berger asks:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Do I have any authority in this place after 26 years? Do I have <em>any<\/em> authority? [Cheers and yells from audience.]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That is so shockingly authoritarian that it surprises even me. It had to be a real shock as well for the Rogers\/Bright faction. What a power grab! It\u2019s just breathtaking!\u00a0<em>Watch that out loud voice, gal!<\/em><\/p>\n<p>She knows that the new people in the church won\u2019t really be swayed. They\u2019ll only know Rob Rogers\u2019 pastoring. They won\u2019t be as familiar with Steve Berger \u2014 or his wife, who clearly enjoyed a great deal of power herself, even if only because of her association with him. Further, newer people take a while to get themselves fully submerged in a church\u2019s gossip mill. Many never do. (I didn\u2019t, myself. Heck, I\u2019m still hearing about stuff that went down in my first church while I attended it that I never even knew about.)<\/p>\n<p>So she\u2019s talking mainly to the old-timers here. They\u2019re the people who will recognize and be long familiar with her power. And they have likely been participating as members of one of the two factions at play here.<\/p>\n<h2>Grace Chapel and the Cord That Needed Cutting.<\/h2>\n<p>In my admittedly-limited view of the situation, I don\u2019t think Sarah Berger can affect much \u2014 but she can cause a lot of ruckus. Her video reveals that Mark Bright\u00a0<em>did\u00a0<\/em>resign already, not just threaten to do so as\u00a0<em>Religion News\u00a0<\/em>indicated. However, the elders stand very much with Rob Rogers here. It sounds like they were over Steve Berger\u2019s antics years ago, which is when (and likely\u00a0<em>why<\/em>) those transition plans began.<\/p>\n<p>The most that Sarah Berger can do is make some long-time members demand Rogers\u2019 firing or else leave, and they might well leave in the end. But that, too, won\u2019t be a bad thing for Grace Chapel. Clearly, there\u2019s a big enough pro-Berger faction at work here to allow this transition to drag on for months past its expiration date. Losing them will only unify the church more.<\/p>\n<p>As I said, I\u2019ve been here. In gaming groups, I\u2019ve been the Rob Rogers in that equation, and yes, I faced a Steve &amp; Sarah Berger problem. I had a pro-Berger faction to deal with too, and I didn\u2019t know then that I needed to do with them what Grace Chapel needs to do here with their Bergers and Berger faction.<\/p>\n<p>In time, I turned into the Steve Berger who left but wouldn\u2019t go fully away, and y\u2019all, the situation wasn\u2019t pretty then either. But eventually, I worked out what had gone wrong both times. Grace Chapel still hasn\u2019t, but maybe they will.<\/p>\n<h2>What Grace Chapel Needs to Know.<\/h2>\n<p>Once someone assumes leadership of an authoritarian group, there\u2019s no real way to go back to just being a player again. But the flocks tend to want a leader just like their last one \u2014 even if many of them hated a lot of the things that leader did. Either way, it\u2019s just not possible.<\/p>\n<p>Megachurches themselves, being so dependent on the charisma of their top leaders, probably have a worse time with transitions than any gaming group ever has. They tend to attract extremely authoritarian people who get off on the amount of power a megachurch can offer.<\/p>\n<p>Though these churches try hard to protect themselves from takeovers through bylaws, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/rolltodisbelieve\/2021\/08\/29\/megapastor-todd-elliott-and-the-church-mutiny\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">we saw the other day<\/span><\/a> that these efforts aren\u2019t always effective.<\/p>\n<p>Probably the most delicate time a megachurch faces is a power transfer, especially if it occurs between two different families (in other words, not an adult child inheriting the throne, though even then <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/rolltodisbelieve\/2020\/08\/11\/why-jerry-falwell-jr-cant-be-a-good-boy\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">these things don\u2019t always go well<\/span><\/a>).<\/p>\n<p><strong>It wouldn\u2019t surprise me at all if most megachurch transitions run about this dysfunctionally. They\u2019re all authoritarian in nature, some more than others, and yet none of them can admit it so they can freely frolic in feudalism like they really want.<\/strong><\/p>\n<h2>SO JESUS-Y.<\/h2>\n<p>We got a rare glimpse of the sheer venom and backroom politicking that these churches contain in this video, and I\u2019m very thankful that someone released it.<\/p>\n<p>I probably don\u2019t <em>need<\/em> to mention that there is absolutely nothing reminiscent in this situation of what Christians like to call \u201cthe Christian virtues,\u201d but I\u2019m gonna anyway.<\/p>\n<p>Churches get revealed, once again, as running like very ineptly-run businesses. Because that is what they are. No gods stand at the center of any of them to help them run more harmoniously.<\/p>\n<p>I hope the congregation of Grace Chapel (and yes, I\u2019ve held off on remarking on the sheer irony of that name till now \u2014 because wow, it is ironic) understands that it\u2019s not just Grace Chapel that operates this way. The backbiting, gossip, and drama generated by almost every church in this country is nothing new or unique. Instead, it\u2019s exactly what I expect when people afflicted with magical thinking form authoritarian groups and then expect an imaginary friend to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.planetclaire.tv\/quotes\/firefly\/season-one\/safe\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">make it go smooth<\/span><\/a>, as Malcolm Reynolds said.<\/p>\n<p>Cuz things never do run smooth in that situation.<\/p>\n<p>If they habitually did, well yes, that <em>would<\/em> make me sit up and take notice. It\u2019d be weird. Unexpected. It\u2019d be attention-getting \u2014 well, almost as much as an ex-pastor\u2019s wife interrupting a Sunday morning service to lash out at her enemies during a church service meant to honor the very god of love and justice she says she worships.<\/p>\n<p><strong>And such a strange situation might just dismantle my opinions <em>rather than confirming them<\/em>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>NEXT UP: <\/strong>It\u2019s so strangely easy for struggling or malignant Christians <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20210721145159\/https:\/\/shaneidleman.com\/2021\/07\/12\/handcuffed-emotions-straight-as-a-gun-barrel-but-just-as-empty\/?utm_source=christian_post&amp;utm_medium=banner&amp;utm_campaign=jul\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">to fake fervor and sincerity<\/span><\/a> \u2014 and their fellow Christians never seem to figure it out themselves. We\u2019ll wonder why that is tomorrow. 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