{"id":32745747257,"date":"2014-04-25T15:01:43","date_gmt":"2014-04-25T20:01:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/samrocha\/?p=32745747257"},"modified":"2015-02-04T18:14:43","modified_gmt":"2015-02-05T00:14:43","slug":"a-hesitant-defense-of-cliven-bundy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/samrocha\/2014\/04\/a-hesitant-defense-of-cliven-bundy\/","title":{"rendered":"A Hesitant Defense of Cliven Bundy"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/pumabydesign001.files.wordpress.com\/2014\/04\/cliven-bundy-patriot.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\"><\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve stayed away from the Bundy story until now. It seemed like the latest bit of 24-hour news sensationalism, and I still think it is. Even as I type these words I\u2019m not exactly interested in the whole story. I don\u2019t plan to do my homework and could care less what I\u2019ve missed or what will show up later.<\/p>\n<p>I only became interested in the story after the racial remarks Bundy made that were decried by every ideological color on my spectrum of social media. That was what caught my attention.<\/p>\n<p>I read this <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2014\/04\/24\/us\/politics\/rancher-proudly-breaks-the-law-becoming-a-hero-in-the-west.html?_r=0\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">piece<\/a> by the <em>New York Times<\/em>, that distilled his remarks about, in his words, \u201cthe Negro.\u201d In these remarks it is hard to understand what he is talking about, but he does wonder aloud about whether slavery was a more free condition when compared to the than the plight of Black America today, which, <em>prima facie<\/em>, may seem ridiculous to some people.<\/p>\n<p>*<\/p>\n<p>Let me say two things about this:<\/p>\n<p>1. Bundy\u2019s subject position, as a white man, gives him very little to no credibility, but that does not change the fact that he is pursuing a line of reasoning that does have some precedent. It was Frederick Douglass\u00a0who, with infinitely more credibility than Bundy, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.historyisaweapon.com\/defcon1\/douglassfraud.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">said<\/a> \u201cI denounce the so-called emancipation as a stupendous fraud\u201d in 1888. It was Carter G. Woodson, founder of Negro History Week and Black History, who wrote, in\u00a0<em>The Miseducation of the Negro<\/em>, what Robert Nesta Marley and Lauryn\u00a0Hill would go on to echo as \u201cmental slavery,\u201d a psychological, spiritual, and structural form of lynching.<\/p>\n<p>That Bundy should not to be leading the public conversation about race in America goes without saying, but taking his words as being intentionally racist would be, on my reading, a serious and grave mistake. I don\u2019t think Bundy has much to say about Black America that we haven\u2019t heard before, but the salient point is that, for those of us concerned about the mass incarceration of Black men and other forms of inequality that persist for people of color, this is nothing particularly new or even controversial. One might call it a rather odd blend of Leftist social critique, mixed with Right wing political theatre. The controversy is that he dared to speak in words that are not presently sanctioned in public discourse, and mostly for good reason.<\/p>\n<p>2. There is the other racial group that Bundy spoke about. The Mexicans. You wouldn\u2019t know that if you didn\u2019t listen to the actual clip of his ramblings. (And, no, I don\u2019t think it\u2019s a big liberal media conspiracy; after all, both sides are ignoring it, and both sides just need the TV ratings.)<\/p>\n<p>Watch it, here. It\u2019s less than four minutes:<\/p>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Cliven Bundy (Full) Controversial Remarks April 19, 2014\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/agXns-W60MI?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<p>If you don\u2019t want to watch it, fine, at least read these remarks Bundy makes about Mexicans (and whites):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Don\u2019t tell me they don\u2019t work and don\u2019t tell me they don\u2019t pay taxes. And don\u2019t tell me they don\u2019t have better family structures than most of us white people. When you see those Mexican families, they\u2019re together, they\u2019re picnicking together, they\u2019re spending their time together, and I\u2019ll tell you, in my way of thinking, they\u2019re awfully nice people.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Of course there is something patronizing about Bundy\u2019s phrasing and his words are hardly polite or politic. Plus, he goes on, I think, to say that this is why Mexicans should be brought into the Republican Party, which might suggest racial favor toward \u201cgood minorities\u201d (Mexicans) and bad ones, which reminds us of the \u201cmodel minority\u201d issues with Asian populations. But, all things considered, speaking as a Mexican, I can say that I smiled when I heard that part.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve heard racism before, I\u2019ve even heard it when it wasn\u2019t spoken, but, to these brown ears, this just isn\u2019t it. In fact, the affect I experienced from it was exactly the reverse.<\/p>\n<p>*<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t know what to think about Bundy\u2019s politics. I haven\u2019t read enough to begin to understand what the hell is going on over there. I find the wisps of anarchism, and of the USA being rooted in an anarchic ethos, very interesting. I find his GOP Republican Party FOXNEWS constitution-defending patriotism nauseating and cheapening. The media\u2019s political field day and handwringing is predictable and we\u2019ll surely forget about all of this very soon, but I must admit publicly that I cannot find fault with Bundy on the issue of race, in his own words I\u2019ve shared, although I wouldn\u2019t say that he is modeling an effective way to promote racial reconciliation and healing. At worst he sounds cavalier about slavery and uses antiquated terminology (had he used the N-word, this would be a totally different story!), but I think the full context and delivery show more nuance when seen in full.<\/p>\n<p>That our groupthink society has bullied us into taking strong and stupid positions on issues we don\u2019t really know anything about is, to me, a far more grave and sobering matter than the exploits of some crazy rancher in Nevada and his nut-job friends and opportunists. Guns are scary, and angry white folks brandishing them is particularly scary, but I am at least equally as scared of the unthinking assumptions and forced positions that are taken because of the fear that this sort of ideological mess engenders.<\/p>\n<p>No, I don\u2019t \u201cstand with Cliven Bundy\u201d or some nonsensical posturing like that, but I am willing to given everyone a fair chance to speak and be understood in terms of what they mean to say. Insofar as that\u2019s the case, I will defend him as I would any other. Anything less than that seems nothing short of idiotic.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019ve stayed away from the Bundy story until now. It seemed like the latest bit of 24-hour news sensationalism, and I still think it is. Even as I type these words I\u2019m not exactly interested in the whole story. 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